Hey @EUCommission have you considered just like, buying Mozilla and making Firefox the sovereign EU browser?

[lnl@screaminginsi.de]

@luc0x61 @webbop Servo is under Linux Foundation Europe, Brussels, not the US one, and has a very different policy on AI https://book.servo.org/contributing/getting-started.html#ai-contributions

[trinsec@trinsec.org]

@eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu Don't we have Vivaldi?

[mu@mastodon.nz]

@luc0x61 @webbop @eniko @EUCommission @servo certainly rust is looking more and more like trash every day

[webbop@tech.lgbt]

@luc0x61 @eniko Please don't start some anti-Rust tireade, what else? Microsoft's .NET?

Rust offers genuinely benefits, and is no less easier to work with. Sry but I'm not going down to the level of not having access to arrays or vectors

[luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@lnl @webbop Oh good, so only one of my conjectures holds.

However, I'm a misanthropist, you can't convince me that any "most important" software developer group is the good part. I'm honestly sorry.

[hiphopheaven@mastodon.social]

@luc0x61 @booboo @eniko @EUCommission vivaldi is europeen.

[turre@mementomori.social]

@hiphopheaven @luc0x61 @booboo @eniko @EUCommission
Vivaldi is not open-source. No matter how good the intentions of current Vivaldi leadership, without the source you're forever the hostage.

[luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@hiphopheaven @booboo @eniko @EUCommission Right, just has the disadvantage of being not open sourced, which could be a plus for any initiative to be supported in the public interest.
Here's why I mentioned @librewolf

[prefec2@norden.social]

@eniko @EUCommission this would be such a sane thing to do. It requires a lot of letter writing and campaigning to get that into Brussels.

[jgrg@mstdn.science]

@eniko @EUCommission "FeuerVolpe"

[gabeweb@mastodon.social]

@eniko @EUCommission No, thanks. Firefox should be an Asian or African browser, since most iconic European companies were killed by European '"protectionism".

[brokar@mastodon.social]

@eniko @EUCommission

Never gonna happen because there are too many lobby groups around, esp. the big 4. Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Meta.
Their promises have obviously more weight than sanity.

[connynasch@mastodon.social]

@Brokar @eniko @EUCommission How do you feel about DuckDuckGo, which is the browser I use?

[trogluur@social.linux.pizza]

@mu How so? Is there some controversy I've missed?

[leslieclarke@mastodon.social]

@eniko I don’t think it’s desirable for the EU to own Firefox. It wouldn’t be a “sovereign EU-browser”, but a “browser that makes the EU (the entity) sovereign”—and the EU, like any state, must be separated from the people it supposedly represents. Chat control, ageverification, the rush towards the AI-future, etc., these are things the EU is susceptible to. There’s nothing to say that an EU-owned Firefox would be much better *for its users*.

[landelare@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@eniko @EUCommission Got it, here's our new sovereign EU fork that integrates perfectly with your on-device mandatory EU ID app (Apple or Google account and device attestation required), and it comes with mandatory built-in age-appropriate content filters and suspicious download reporting for your safety ️

[ariarhythmic@ohai.social]

@Turre @hiphopheaven @luc0x61 @booboo @eniko @EUCommission And their excuse for not open sourcing it is just selfishness, being afraid to not have complete control over their users, to put it plainly. I would remain wary of Vivaldi.

[allende1973@todon.nl]

@eniko @EUCommission

Bad idea.

The EU commission woul build spyware into it to supply intelligence to Israel.

And it would ban Palestinians and Iranians from using it, because of zionist sanctions.

Why?

Because the EU is a zionist tool.

The answer is to free Firefox, not to swap abusive owner.

[allende1973@todon.nl]

@eniko @EUCommission

"EU regulations"

You mean chat control?

You mean sanctions on Iran and the blockade of Gaza?

The laws against using technology to call out Zionism's genocide?

No thanks.

[ariarhythmic@ohai.social]

@connynasch @Brokar @eniko @EUCommission It's Chrome marketed for faux "privacy"