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Do I know (or not yet know πŸ˜‡) people here, who are German #expats in the #Netherlands?

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  • hausgeist@todon.euH hausgeist@todon.eu

    Do I know (or not yet know πŸ˜‡) people here, who are German #expats in the #Netherlands? I'd like talk to you, please! Please #boost4reach

    oneiros@ruhr.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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    @hausgeist
    @isotopp ?

    #expats #Netherlands #boost4reach

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    • hausgeist@todon.euH hausgeist@todon.eu

      Do I know (or not yet know πŸ˜‡) people here, who are German #expats in the #Netherlands? I'd like talk to you, please! Please #boost4reach

      polarjet@todon.euP This user is from outside of this forum
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      @hausgeist hi, could you please stop using the expat hashtag? that's an awful classist word, and we don't want that kind of discrimination, right?

      hausgeist@todon.euH ankedesign@mastodon.socialA humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH 3 Replies Last reply
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      • hausgeist@todon.euH hausgeist@todon.eu

        Do I know (or not yet know πŸ˜‡) people here, who are German #expats in the #Netherlands? I'd like talk to you, please! Please #boost4reach

        josgeluk@mastodon.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @hausgeist I know 4 Germans living in the Netherlands reasonably well, but none of them is on Mastodon. I can't very well give you their phone numbers without a good reason. Can they reach your in any other way?

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        • polarjet@todon.euP polarjet@todon.eu

          @hausgeist hi, could you please stop using the expat hashtag? that's an awful classist word, and we don't want that kind of discrimination, right?

          hausgeist@todon.euH This user is from outside of this forum
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          @polarjet You're absolutely right, thank you. Fixed.

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          • polarjet@todon.euP polarjet@todon.eu

            @hausgeist hi, could you please stop using the expat hashtag? that's an awful classist word, and we don't want that kind of discrimination, right?

            ankedesign@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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            @polarjet @hausgeist Honest question, as someone in The Hague, the word 'expat' is still used a lot around here. The problem is that is makes a division between certain groups of foreign workers? Or something else? Thank you for explaining.

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            • ankedesign@mastodon.socialA ankedesign@mastodon.social

              @polarjet @hausgeist Honest question, as someone in The Hague, the word 'expat' is still used a lot around here. The problem is that is makes a division between certain groups of foreign workers? Or something else? Thank you for explaining.

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              @ankedesign @polarjet @hausgeist in the older definition an expat is send by a company. So an International company sends an employee from another country which is an expat from the perspective of the sending country and an impat from the perspective of the recieving country. This is also the definition within Wikipedia.
              Another definition that you also find is that expats have legal ground to stay in another country so they don't have to ask for permission.
              That is with marriage but within Schengen also covers the other Schengen citizens - like me as a German in NL but also Americans that are here based on DAFT. Usually that also applies to people who are there based on high skilled labor.
              It is seen as a problematic term by some few because it tries to separate from people that migrated to another country and that sometimes are referred as refugees.
              In that definition expats are white migrants .... And that makes the term problematic.
              I have been called an expat by the city of Rotterdam without knowing the difference of the terms.

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              • hausgeist@todon.euH hausgeist@todon.eu

                Do I know (or not yet know πŸ˜‡) people here, who are German #expats in the #Netherlands? I'd like talk to you, please! Please #boost4reach

                mcfly@milliways.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                @hausgeist I am a German living in NL. I have send you a direct message.

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                • hausgeist@todon.euH hausgeist@todon.eu

                  Do I know (or not yet know πŸ˜‡) people here, who are German #expats in the #Netherlands? I'd like talk to you, please! Please #boost4reach

                  stairjoke@indieweb.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @hausgeist I moved from DE to NL and back again.

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                  • ankedesign@mastodon.socialA ankedesign@mastodon.social

                    @polarjet @hausgeist Honest question, as someone in The Hague, the word 'expat' is still used a lot around here. The problem is that is makes a division between certain groups of foreign workers? Or something else? Thank you for explaining.

                    polarjet@todon.euP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @ankedesign in short, yes, that's the problem. The words migrant or foreign worker express the same meaning, but somehow the word 'expat' has been adopted by/assigned to migrants with high income.

                    Sadly, migration is being criminalised nowadays. I think it's important to choose 'migrant' over 'expat' every now and then so people can understand that being a migrant isn't inherently bad, but just an administrative category.

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                    • hausgeist@todon.euH hausgeist@todon.eu

                      Do I know (or not yet know πŸ˜‡) people here, who are German #expats in the #Netherlands? I'd like talk to you, please! Please #boost4reach

                      humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @hausgeist I know one. What's the issue? It should be straightforward

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                      • polarjet@todon.euP polarjet@todon.eu

                        @hausgeist hi, could you please stop using the expat hashtag? that's an awful classist word, and we don't want that kind of discrimination, right?

                        humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @polarjet @hausgeist it's also factually incorrect for the EU

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                        • mcfly@milliways.socialM mcfly@milliways.social

                          @ankedesign @polarjet @hausgeist in the older definition an expat is send by a company. So an International company sends an employee from another country which is an expat from the perspective of the sending country and an impat from the perspective of the recieving country. This is also the definition within Wikipedia.
                          Another definition that you also find is that expats have legal ground to stay in another country so they don't have to ask for permission.
                          That is with marriage but within Schengen also covers the other Schengen citizens - like me as a German in NL but also Americans that are here based on DAFT. Usually that also applies to people who are there based on high skilled labor.
                          It is seen as a problematic term by some few because it tries to separate from people that migrated to another country and that sometimes are referred as refugees.
                          In that definition expats are white migrants .... And that makes the term problematic.
                          I have been called an expat by the city of Rotterdam without knowing the difference of the terms.

                          humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @mcfly @ankedesign @polarjet @hausgeist Americans don't have rights in the EU unless covered by a visa and non Schengen EU citizens like me have the right to live anywhere in the EU no matter how hard you try to stop us. Americans and British don't have this right but are give it informally by clueless Europeans

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