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  3. Now, more than ever, I find myself contemplating the last two sentences from this page of Acton's "Numerical Methods that (usually) Work".

Now, more than ever, I find myself contemplating the last two sentences from this page of Acton's "Numerical Methods that (usually) Work".

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  • tpfto@mathstodon.xyzT tpfto@mathstodon.xyz

    Now, more than ever, I find myself contemplating the last two sentences from this page of Acton's "Numerical Methods that (usually) Work".

    amenzwa@mathstodon.xyzA This user is from outside of this forum
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    @tpfto
    😍😍😍
    I hadn’t seen it. Thanks so much mate. Love it!

    And that book title….🀣

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    • amenzwa@mathstodon.xyzA amenzwa@mathstodon.xyz

      @tpfto
      😍😍😍
      I hadn’t seen it. Thanks so much mate. Love it!

      And that book title….🀣

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      @AmenZwa I am sure Acton knew what he was doing when he picked that book title. (In fact, in the original edition of the book, the title was ostensibly just "Numerical Methods That Work", and the "Usually" was in a faded shade of gray, like he was trying to sneak it in.)

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      • tpfto@mathstodon.xyzT tpfto@mathstodon.xyz

        @AmenZwa I am sure Acton knew what he was doing when he picked that book title. (In fact, in the original edition of the book, the title was ostensibly just "Numerical Methods That Work", and the "Usually" was in a faded shade of gray, like he was trying to sneak it in.)

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        @tpfto
        Bold, that. Ya gotta love it.

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        • tpfto@mathstodon.xyzT tpfto@mathstodon.xyz

          Now, more than ever, I find myself contemplating the last two sentences from this page of Acton's "Numerical Methods that (usually) Work".

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          @tpfto This is, as a whole, a pleasantly opinionated book.

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          • nxskok@cupoftea.socialN nxskok@cupoftea.social

            @tpfto This is, as a whole, a pleasantly opinionated book.

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            @nxskok I find that Acton is a little like Velvel Kahan (he of IEEE floating point standard fame) or Edsger Dijkstra: you don't always have to agree with what they wrote, but you should at least give them some serious thought.

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            • tpfto@mathstodon.xyzT tpfto@mathstodon.xyz

              Now, more than ever, I find myself contemplating the last two sentences from this page of Acton's "Numerical Methods that (usually) Work".

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              @tpfto It's a fantastic book

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              • tpfto@mathstodon.xyzT tpfto@mathstodon.xyz

                @nxskok I find that Acton is a little like Velvel Kahan (he of IEEE floating point standard fame) or Edsger Dijkstra: you don't always have to agree with what they wrote, but you should at least give them some serious thought.

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                @tpfto my take with this kind of thing is "the author has done some serious thinking about these issues, so if I'm going to disagree with them, I'd better have a good reason".

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                • tpfto@mathstodon.xyzT tpfto@mathstodon.xyz

                  Now, more than ever, I find myself contemplating the last two sentences from this page of Acton's "Numerical Methods that (usually) Work".

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                  @tpfto Interesting book, thanks. I found it digitized on archive.org.

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                  Numerical methods that work : Acton, Forman S : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

                  xx, 549 p. : 23 cm

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                    @tpfto Interesting book, thanks. I found it digitized on archive.org.

                    Link Preview Image
                    Numerical methods that work : Acton, Forman S : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

                    xx, 549 p. : 23 cm

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                    Internet Archive (archive.org)

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                    @kbob I don't know how appealing it would be to non-specialists, but let me just say that it's one of the books I read because I really like reading it (e.g. I'd read it before bedtime), as opposed to just needing to refer to it for an application (though I've done that for this book, too).

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                    • tpfto@mathstodon.xyzT tpfto@mathstodon.xyz

                      Now, more than ever, I find myself contemplating the last two sentences from this page of Acton's "Numerical Methods that (usually) Work".

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                      @tpfto

                      maybe I am totally wrong, but wasn't this once very influential book sort of about using the computer as a partial substitute for thought ?
                      https://www.amazon.com/Exploratory-Data-Analysis-John-Tukey/dp/0201076160

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                        maybe I am totally wrong, but wasn't this once very influential book sort of about using the computer as a partial substitute for thought ?
                        https://www.amazon.com/Exploratory-Data-Analysis-John-Tukey/dp/0201076160

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                        It has been a good long while since I looked at Tukey, but what I took away from his body of work back then (setting the FFT algorithm aside) is that even the simplest tools can be used to reveal a lot about data (which he then amply illustrated in that book you display, e.g. stem-leaf plots). Just like Tufte, he does not strike me as the sort who'd surrender his capability to think and make sense of things to the computer.

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