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"I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

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  • jmax@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    @Natasha_Jay "I just found out it's been bullshitting the whole time."

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    • herrlorenz@chaos.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Natasha_Jay It's like a maths professor who played the lottery for years, and then one day sat down to actually look at it...?

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        @Natasha_Jay AI failing upwards just like any good manager

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        • fragarach@social.vivaldi.netF fragarach@social.vivaldi.net

          @lxskllr @Natasha_Jay

          I can't find it now, online search has become almost useless.

          But there was a news story some years ago where they compared predictions from 10 stock market tipsters. Then they added a mystery 11th to the mix.
          When the results came in,the mystery 11th tipster came in a close second if I remember right. The mystery 11th turned out to be a pet parrot.

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          robinadams@mathstodon.xyz
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          @Fragarach @lxskllr @Natasha_Jay Maybe this one? Monkeys not parrots. https://www.marketsentiment.co/p/the-monkeys-that-beat-the-market

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          • G gerardthornley@hachyderm.io

            @ktneely @lxskllr @GreatBigTable
            I think AI is technically a scrape goat. 😀

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            @GerardThornley @ktneely @lxskllr @GreatBigTable Eggcorn?

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            • R robinadams@mathstodon.xyz

              @Fragarach @lxskllr @Natasha_Jay Maybe this one? Monkeys not parrots. https://www.marketsentiment.co/p/the-monkeys-that-beat-the-market

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              @robinadams @lxskllr @Natasha_Jay

              That's really interesting, thank you for that!
              The one I'd been thinking of was much less rigorous and thorough. I had no idea so much effort had gone into those comparisons.

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              • afilina@phpc.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                @Natasha_Jay Or they made bad decisions and are now blaming an LLM, because this excuse can help dodge responsibility. It's like blaming an intern.

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                  @Natasha_Jay

                  🍿😈

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                  • zenheathen@beige.partyZ zenheathen@beige.party

                    @Natasha_Jay An organization which trusts this tech enough to simply implement without a changeover period during which the results now given are getting checked against old methods... simply deserves what it gets.

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                    @ZenHeathen @Natasha_Jay but the new numbers are so much better!!!! 🤪

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                    • stuart@social.brainsys.comS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @Natasha_Jay

                      K don't understand what has happened here. Please help me.

                      One of my jobs was crunching data for senior management reports. A job that would be automated today. Producing metrics implies you are transforming raw numbers into meaningful trends and forecasts.

                      Where was the invention? Was it in the input or transformation? Both should have guardrails. In other words the ai could, for instsnce, be using the wrong statistical analysis to produce the wrong results. But that's an error not an hallucination. People do it too.

                      I've had hallucinations but if you require ai to show sources you soon spot made-up stuff. Trouble is when the sources are unchecked ai generated (ai slop). That's just beginning.

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                      • catbrainz@retro.pizzaC catbrainz@retro.pizza

                        @Natasha_Jay what seemed crazy to me reading the comments on the reddit post is that so many answers were like "no you can't do it that way, you need to <bunch of extra, convoluted and unnecessary work> to use that tool properly in that context" and to me it's like ok so.....you have to jump through all those hoops to justify using a tool that doesn't actually make anything easier for you.....why? To look like you're following innovation? God I'm glad I no longer work anywhere remotely related to tech right now.

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                        @Natasha_Jay also funny some people think a paper trail will prevent this person from getting fired, as if HR gave a shit about actually protecting workers from bad management and weren't champions of spinning anything in the favor of whoever they have to side with.

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                          @Natasha_Jay
                          So they just... adopted a new process, and accepted whatever they were told?

                          Without checking?

                          Those people should not be managing anything.

                          Because they *never have*.

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                          • herrlorenz@chaos.socialH herrlorenz@chaos.social

                            @Natasha_Jay It's like a maths professor who played the lottery for years, and then one day sat down to actually look at it...?

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                            @herrLorenz

                            And found out that it's just a tax on greed and stupidity?

                            @Natasha_Jay

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                            • essjayjay@tech.lgbtE essjayjay@tech.lgbt

                              @herrLorenz

                              And found out that it's just a tax on greed and stupidity?

                              @Natasha_Jay

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                              @essjayjay @Natasha_Jay

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                              • taurus@thicc.horseT taurus@thicc.horse

                                @cmthiede @Natasha_Jay @jwdt hm surely the investors then pulls out the "due diligence" argument.

                                If you are so stupid to trust an AI and even more stupid of expecting other people to pay for that then surely you're lacking above mentioned due diligence and are unable to lead a company

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                                @taurus @cmthiede @Natasha_Jay at that point the investors are doing the same thing to pump it up so they can sell it on to someone else so they're not holding the bag.

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