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"I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

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  • ktneely@infosec.exchangeK ktneely@infosec.exchange

    @lxskllr @GreatBigTable meh, they've probably been fabricating data for the board long before generative AI hit the scene. The only difference is that now they have a scape goat.

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    gerardthornley@hachyderm.io
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    @ktneely @lxskllr @GreatBigTable
    I think AI is technically a scrape goat. 😀

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      azurearmageddon@mastodon.online
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      @Natasha_Jay On one hand, yes a lot of technically-minded people saw this coming a couple odd lightyears away, but on the other hand I would love someone paid by this company to continue digging and write an utterly scathing report detailing the nature and extent of the misrepresentations made by the product and sue the vendor for relying on a misunderstanding the product's capabilities for sales (however successful it may be).

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        @Natasha_Jay Does anyone feel sympathy for these people? Because I don’t. 🫤

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          @Natasha_Jay @WiseWoman That's probably AI generated rage bait and was removed from Reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/analytics/comments/1r4dsq2/we_just_found_out_our_ai_has_been_making_up/

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            @Natasha_Jay hahaha box ain't that comfortable any more I guess.

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              @Natasha_Jay @mtriclot

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                @Natasha_Jay after 3 months, someone asks to double check ...

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                • simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS simonzerafa@infosec.exchange

                  @Natasha_Jay

                  The game of "passing the buck" on this one will be interesting. Hopefully those numbers are at least approximately correct.

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                  @simonzerafa @Natasha_Jay

                  That last line doesn't inspire a lot of confidence, though.

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                    @Natasha_Jay Ouch! It has literally been sculpted to behave like an extreme people pleaser. Just like humans, we so readily circumvent the truth to please others.

                    That this is at the deep root of how AI works should alone destroy all but checked usage when honest stats are vital.

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                    • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

                      @simonzerafa @Natasha_Jay

                      That last line doesn't inspire a lot of confidence, though.

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                      @bruce @Natasha_Jay

                      No, I do wonder that there might be a fraud investigation shortly.

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                        @Natasha_Jay @pojntfx it’s scary the number of “accountants” I heard say they just dump their Excel sheets into an LLM and it shits out some amazing final thing/result.

                        Needless to say I stop talking to these people once I find that out.

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                          @Natasha_Jay

                          Obviously, whoever authorised the implementation should be sacked for failure of due diligence.

                          In a previous life though, I remember talking to someone about their data. "Is this accurate?" I asked. "It's plausible" was the response. A discussion followed around a viewpoint that it isn't actually cheating if you know everyone else is cheating in the same way. Which is why it makes sense not to believe that the figures issued by any organisation are completely accurate, they'll often be presented in a way that supports a particular narrative.

                          Which isn't what you were talking about, but it did remind me, sorry! 😊

                          #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                            @grepe @lxskllr @Natasha_Jay just very difficult to justify marketing spent.

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                              @Natasha_Jay #WhereIsMySurprisedFace

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                                @Natasha_Jay as an executive manager, I'd rather rely on hallucinated data than on data intentionally made up by humans.

                                'Any random number is better than a forged number.' Not 'good', but better than the worst.

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                                  @Natasha_Jay note the complete absence of gasps following that statement

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                                    @dropbear @Natasha_Jay

                                    By the way, always delighted to see what is to my understanding a classic prank Auzzies play on tourists

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                                    @GhostOnTheHalfShell @dropbear @Natasha_Jay

                                    Unconnected but I did once use “Drop Bear” as a murder weapon in a supers RPG where the assassin had animal control and a pet koala.

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                                      @Natasha_Jay So the jobs of the VP and CFO were useless to begin with? I'm not surprised.

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                                        @Natasha_Jay just a reminder that an IAgen doesn’t tell the truth. It tells a plausible answer. That’s what « generative » stands for.

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                                          @Natasha_Jay Hallucinating is still the wrong word, it's a needless anthropomorphism, they are simply invented numbers...

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