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Why mathematicians are boycotting their biggest conference: More than 1,500 mathematicians are demanding that their field’s most prestigious meeting be moved from the U.S.

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  • capeta@ursal.zoneC capeta@ursal.zone

    @judgyweevil @sgtgary those are some heavy duty quotes 🤣

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    @capeta @sgtgary It's because no one is apolitical. You can self-define yourself as apolitical, but sticking your head in the sand is a political message nonetheless

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    • judgyweevil@mastodon.unoJ judgyweevil@mastodon.uno

      @sgtgary If I was an "apolitical" mathematician, I would boycott it just for my own security

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      @judgyweevil @sgtgary

      nothing is apolitical

      anyone who tells you that is shutting you down

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      • truls46@mastodon.socialT truls46@mastodon.social

        @oddhack I would guess the concerns are more about the ability to leave the country again.

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        @truls46 @oddhack

        yes, I would guess some signatories only care selfishly about their own safety and not about injustices and war crimes being carried out by the usa around the globe

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        • judgyweevil@mastodon.unoJ judgyweevil@mastodon.uno

          @capeta @sgtgary It's because no one is apolitical. You can self-define yourself as apolitical, but sticking your head in the sand is a political message nonetheless

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          @judgyweevil @sgtgary that's exactly what I meant about the quotes 😁

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          • cowman@thecanadian.socialC cowman@thecanadian.social

            @provokingcats @sgtgary Not buying it. Sure, could do, but that is just a scummy old phase shifted cosine in disguise.

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            @CowMan @sgtgary

            a sine by any other phase would sine as sweet 😉

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            • sgtgary@mindly.socialS sgtgary@mindly.social

              Why mathematicians are boycotting their biggest conference: More than 1,500 mathematicians are demanding that their field’s most prestigious meeting be moved from the U.S.

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              (While unfortunate, this needs to happen. Everyone should move their meet-ups away from the US for now) #uspol

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              @sgtgary

              For a story about math, they neglected some important numbers.

              How many people actually attend a math(s) conference? How many signers were actually planning to visit? How far in advance was the venue and date set?

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              • villavelius@mastodon.onlineV villavelius@mastodon.online

                @sgtgary
                Quite surprising how many international conferences there still are in the USA
                https://internationalconferencealerts.com/usa-conferences

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                @villavelius Absolutely agree. Everyone who still has their conferences in the US should be boycotted for the forseeable future.

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                • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                  @sgtgary Good! And it's not the only conference - some already moved. Here in France, scientists are warned by their collegues to travel to the USA. And we have several official travel warnings for people in EU countries, too (e.g. if you are trans, how they handle your privacy etc.)

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                  @NatureMC I am glad people are being notified of the safety and security problems in the US!

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                  • number6@fosstodon.orgN number6@fosstodon.org

                    @sgtgary

                    For a story about math, they neglected some important numbers.

                    How many people actually attend a math(s) conference? How many signers were actually planning to visit? How far in advance was the venue and date set?

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                    @number6 I thought that too. 1500 methematicians are asking for it to be moved ou of the US, but those 1500 are not the attendees. Still, it's great that a many in the field are speaking up even if they are not attending.

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                    • sgtgary@mindly.socialS sgtgary@mindly.social

                      Why mathematicians are boycotting their biggest conference: More than 1,500 mathematicians are demanding that their field’s most prestigious meeting be moved from the U.S.

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                      More than 1,500 mathematicians are demanding that their field’s most prestigious meeting be moved from the U.S.

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                      Scientific American (www.scientificamerican.com)

                      (While unfortunate, this needs to happen. Everyone should move their meet-ups away from the US for now) #uspol

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                      @sgtgary

                      cc: @q seems like the charge you have been leading at IETF is getting around.

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