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  • pierogiburo@tech.lgbtP pierogiburo@tech.lgbt

    a friendly reminder:

    proprietary software is unethical because it restricts user freedom and evil corporations love that shit

    open source is unethical because you're just giving more training data to evil corporations

    permissive licenses are unethical because you're allowing evil corporations to use your work

    copyleft licenses are unethical because a starving transfem game developer won't be able to use your code in her next game that she really needs to sell because otherwise an evil corporation will evict her from her apartment

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    @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt show me the license I'll show you the crime

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    • natty@astolfo.socialN natty@astolfo.social

      @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt we've also been thinking a bit how the same people that love xkcd 2347 also are the loudest when the person in Nebraska starts using Claude, while they wouldn't dare to be this vocal at a company. And sure most people can't afford to protest like that at work, but it's been increasingly common that OSS devs are held to an even higher moral ground ​​

      Society
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      No I'm actually kinda tired because the naming and shaming clearly doesn't work for individuals singlehandedly maintaining some piece of software used by over a billion devices, and people suddenly caring and wanting to fork a project they didn't even give two shits about before

      Also everyone stopped content warning this shit so we can't escape it

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      @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt this is not to defend reckless LLM use but the "gotchas" and online slamdunks really make me want to quit software circles online

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      • miawinter@tech.lgbtM miawinter@tech.lgbt

        @natty @pierogiburo I would boost this but tbh I don't wanna see the kinds of replies this would get

        Like... Ughhh

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        @MiaWinter @natty i think people thanklessly developing vital internet infrastructure should just embrace the burnout and despair like the rest of us

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        • pierogiburo@tech.lgbtP pierogiburo@tech.lgbt

          @MiaWinter @natty i think people thanklessly developing vital internet infrastructure should just embrace the burnout and despair like the rest of us

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          #22

          @pierogiburo @natty I mean, I've been embracing art and following more artsy people and honestly it makes me feel much better

          Maybe if we all just quit, the internet just breaks

          And then we're all free

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          • miawinter@tech.lgbtM miawinter@tech.lgbt

            @pierogiburo @natty I mean, I've been embracing art and following more artsy people and honestly it makes me feel much better

            Maybe if we all just quit, the internet just breaks

            And then we're all free

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            @MiaWinter@tech.lgbt @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt to be fair it exists in the art community too but the only way to be free is not making doomscrolling someone else's problem

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            • natty@astolfo.socialN natty@astolfo.social

              @MiaWinter@tech.lgbt @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt to be fair it exists in the art community too but the only way to be free is not making doomscrolling someone else's problem

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              @natty @pierogiburo yeah..

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              • natty@astolfo.socialN natty@astolfo.social

                @MiaWinter@tech.lgbt @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt to be fair it exists in the art community too but the only way to be free is not making doomscrolling someone else's problem

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                @MiaWinter@tech.lgbt @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt fedi is uniquely nostalgia-baity towards autistic creatures and it annoys me because the negative sentiment ripples a lot

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                • pierogiburo@tech.lgbtP pierogiburo@tech.lgbt

                  a friendly reminder:

                  proprietary software is unethical because it restricts user freedom and evil corporations love that shit

                  open source is unethical because you're just giving more training data to evil corporations

                  permissive licenses are unethical because you're allowing evil corporations to use your work

                  copyleft licenses are unethical because a starving transfem game developer won't be able to use your code in her next game that she really needs to sell because otherwise an evil corporation will evict her from her apartment

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                  #26

                  @pierogiburo i really *really* hate that i have to attach a license to everything i make, what if subtlety threatening everyone around me who uses anything i make sucks actually

                  like actually, this but unironically.. fuck licenses,

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                    @tk @pierogiburo tbh software licensing id say you can definitely say that, but software itself not really,

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                    • natty@astolfo.socialN natty@astolfo.social

                      @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt this is not to defend reckless LLM use but the "gotchas" and online slamdunks really make me want to quit software circles online

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                      @natty @pierogiburo yeah -- i do feel like alot of "LLMs and AI are bad" posts quickly turn into shaming and or trying to punish people for using AI, rather than otherwise (its also tbh maybe(?) an issue with OSS in general, that you cant easily criticise design or development choices without inheriently also making it about those people doing those things-) but i would say thats indicitive of a larger soceital issue in general

                      but anyway -- as for this sentiment around licensing being done unironically ..., yeah .. i kind of feel something simular to this like unironically tbh

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                      • pierogiburo@tech.lgbtP pierogiburo@tech.lgbt

                        a friendly reminder:

                        proprietary software is unethical because it restricts user freedom and evil corporations love that shit

                        open source is unethical because you're just giving more training data to evil corporations

                        permissive licenses are unethical because you're allowing evil corporations to use your work

                        copyleft licenses are unethical because a starving transfem game developer won't be able to use your code in her next game that she really needs to sell because otherwise an evil corporation will evict her from her apartment

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                        @pierogiburo conclusion : I must make a recursive software license that disallows use in slop training and only allows queers to access and redistribute it
                        (This will definitely not snowball into everyone declaring themselves queer to grab a copy)

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                        • li@tech.lgbtL li@tech.lgbt

                          @pierogiburo i really *really* hate that i have to attach a license to everything i make, what if subtlety threatening everyone around me who uses anything i make sucks actually

                          like actually, this but unironically.. fuck licenses,

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                          @Li honestly just slap unlicense into the root of your project and don't worry about it too much

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                          • pierogiburo@tech.lgbtP pierogiburo@tech.lgbt

                            @Li honestly just slap unlicense into the root of your project and don't worry about it too much

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                            @pierogiburo unlicense litterally only works if your from the USA, and besides im still fucking working within that bullshit framework, and that kind of angers me somewhat; i don't actually have an issue with 'i dont want my software used for these purposes' .. but i *dont* want to have it written in the form of a fucking threat that i'll try have state-sanctioned violence commited against you if you dont comply .. *thats* the part i have issue with;

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                            • konstruct@woof.techK konstruct@woof.tech

                              @pierogiburo conclusion : I must make a recursive software license that disallows use in slop training and only allows queers to access and redistribute it
                              (This will definitely not snowball into everyone declaring themselves queer to grab a copy)

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                              @konstruct @pierogiburo the issue here is now your not allowing the starving game developer to use it unless their queer..

                              "like sorry your undeserving of essential resources -- unless your trans" yknow, still kind of fucked

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                              • li@tech.lgbtL li@tech.lgbt

                                @konstruct @pierogiburo the issue here is now your not allowing the starving game developer to use it unless their queer..

                                "like sorry your undeserving of essential resources -- unless your trans" yknow, still kind of fucked

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                                @Li @pierogiburo conclusion : I must make a recursive software license that disallows use in slop training and only allows people in survival financial stress and queers to access and redistribute it

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