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  • pierogiburo@tech.lgbtP pierogiburo@tech.lgbt

    a friendly reminder:

    proprietary software is unethical because it restricts user freedom and evil corporations love that shit

    open source is unethical because you're just giving more training data to evil corporations

    permissive licenses are unethical because you're allowing evil corporations to use your work

    copyleft licenses are unethical because a starving transfem game developer won't be able to use your code in her next game that she really needs to sell because otherwise an evil corporation will evict her from her apartment

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    no wait actually copyleft licenses are also unethical because they motivate ai slop license laundering

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    • pierogiburo@tech.lgbtP pierogiburo@tech.lgbt

      a friendly reminder:

      proprietary software is unethical because it restricts user freedom and evil corporations love that shit

      open source is unethical because you're just giving more training data to evil corporations

      permissive licenses are unethical because you're allowing evil corporations to use your work

      copyleft licenses are unethical because a starving transfem game developer won't be able to use your code in her next game that she really needs to sell because otherwise an evil corporation will evict her from her apartment

      natty@astolfo.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #12

      @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt actually feeling like we've seen this sentiment before, unironically

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      • natty@astolfo.socialN natty@astolfo.social

        @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt actually feeling like we've seen this sentiment before, unironically

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        #13

        @natty the only real solution is to stop doing software /hj

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        • pierogiburo@tech.lgbtP pierogiburo@tech.lgbt

          a friendly reminder:

          proprietary software is unethical because it restricts user freedom and evil corporations love that shit

          open source is unethical because you're just giving more training data to evil corporations

          permissive licenses are unethical because you're allowing evil corporations to use your work

          copyleft licenses are unethical because a starving transfem game developer won't be able to use your code in her next game that she really needs to sell because otherwise an evil corporation will evict her from her apartment

          matildalove@wetdry.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #14

          @pierogiburo instructions clear; overthrowing capitalism

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          • miawinter@tech.lgbtM miawinter@tech.lgbt

            @natty the only real solution is to stop doing software /hj

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            #15

            @natty but unironically

            I think geekslist is the last software project I'll do

            like, I don't see myself grabbing a project "for fun" or anything ever again

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            • ijomeli@void.rehabI ijomeli@void.rehab

              @pierogiburo gotcha, software is unethical and i should move to the wilderness

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              #16
              @ijomeli @pierogiburo unironically this is the vibe this gives
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              • natty@astolfo.socialN natty@astolfo.social

                @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt actually feeling like we've seen this sentiment before, unironically

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                @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt we've also been thinking a bit how the same people that love xkcd 2347 also are the loudest when the person in Nebraska starts using Claude, while they wouldn't dare to be this vocal at a company. And sure most people can't afford to protest like that at work, but it's been increasingly common that OSS devs are held to an even higher moral ground ​​

                Society
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                No I'm actually kinda tired because the naming and shaming clearly doesn't work for individuals singlehandedly maintaining some piece of software used by over a billion devices, and people suddenly caring and wanting to fork a project they didn't even give two shits about before

                Also everyone stopped content warning this shit so we can't escape it

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                • natty@astolfo.socialN natty@astolfo.social

                  @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt we've also been thinking a bit how the same people that love xkcd 2347 also are the loudest when the person in Nebraska starts using Claude, while they wouldn't dare to be this vocal at a company. And sure most people can't afford to protest like that at work, but it's been increasingly common that OSS devs are held to an even higher moral ground ​​

                  Society
                  🚬

                  No I'm actually kinda tired because the naming and shaming clearly doesn't work for individuals singlehandedly maintaining some piece of software used by over a billion devices, and people suddenly caring and wanting to fork a project they didn't even give two shits about before

                  Also everyone stopped content warning this shit so we can't escape it

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                  #18

                  @natty @pierogiburo I would boost this but tbh I don't wanna see the kinds of replies this would get

                  Like... Ughhh

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                  • pierogiburo@tech.lgbtP pierogiburo@tech.lgbt

                    a friendly reminder:

                    proprietary software is unethical because it restricts user freedom and evil corporations love that shit

                    open source is unethical because you're just giving more training data to evil corporations

                    permissive licenses are unethical because you're allowing evil corporations to use your work

                    copyleft licenses are unethical because a starving transfem game developer won't be able to use your code in her next game that she really needs to sell because otherwise an evil corporation will evict her from her apartment

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                    @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt show me the license I'll show you the crime

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                    • natty@astolfo.socialN natty@astolfo.social

                      @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt we've also been thinking a bit how the same people that love xkcd 2347 also are the loudest when the person in Nebraska starts using Claude, while they wouldn't dare to be this vocal at a company. And sure most people can't afford to protest like that at work, but it's been increasingly common that OSS devs are held to an even higher moral ground ​​

                      Society
                      🚬

                      No I'm actually kinda tired because the naming and shaming clearly doesn't work for individuals singlehandedly maintaining some piece of software used by over a billion devices, and people suddenly caring and wanting to fork a project they didn't even give two shits about before

                      Also everyone stopped content warning this shit so we can't escape it

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                      #20

                      @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt this is not to defend reckless LLM use but the "gotchas" and online slamdunks really make me want to quit software circles online

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                      • miawinter@tech.lgbtM miawinter@tech.lgbt

                        @natty @pierogiburo I would boost this but tbh I don't wanna see the kinds of replies this would get

                        Like... Ughhh

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                        @MiaWinter @natty i think people thanklessly developing vital internet infrastructure should just embrace the burnout and despair like the rest of us

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                        • pierogiburo@tech.lgbtP pierogiburo@tech.lgbt

                          @MiaWinter @natty i think people thanklessly developing vital internet infrastructure should just embrace the burnout and despair like the rest of us

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                          @pierogiburo @natty I mean, I've been embracing art and following more artsy people and honestly it makes me feel much better

                          Maybe if we all just quit, the internet just breaks

                          And then we're all free

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                          • miawinter@tech.lgbtM miawinter@tech.lgbt

                            @pierogiburo @natty I mean, I've been embracing art and following more artsy people and honestly it makes me feel much better

                            Maybe if we all just quit, the internet just breaks

                            And then we're all free

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                            @MiaWinter@tech.lgbt @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt to be fair it exists in the art community too but the only way to be free is not making doomscrolling someone else's problem

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                            • natty@astolfo.socialN natty@astolfo.social

                              @MiaWinter@tech.lgbt @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt to be fair it exists in the art community too but the only way to be free is not making doomscrolling someone else's problem

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                              @natty @pierogiburo yeah..

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                              • natty@astolfo.socialN natty@astolfo.social

                                @MiaWinter@tech.lgbt @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt to be fair it exists in the art community too but the only way to be free is not making doomscrolling someone else's problem

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                                @MiaWinter@tech.lgbt @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt fedi is uniquely nostalgia-baity towards autistic creatures and it annoys me because the negative sentiment ripples a lot

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                                • pierogiburo@tech.lgbtP pierogiburo@tech.lgbt

                                  a friendly reminder:

                                  proprietary software is unethical because it restricts user freedom and evil corporations love that shit

                                  open source is unethical because you're just giving more training data to evil corporations

                                  permissive licenses are unethical because you're allowing evil corporations to use your work

                                  copyleft licenses are unethical because a starving transfem game developer won't be able to use your code in her next game that she really needs to sell because otherwise an evil corporation will evict her from her apartment

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                                  #26

                                  @pierogiburo i really *really* hate that i have to attach a license to everything i make, what if subtlety threatening everyone around me who uses anything i make sucks actually

                                  like actually, this but unironically.. fuck licenses,

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                                    @tk @pierogiburo tbh software licensing id say you can definitely say that, but software itself not really,

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                                    • natty@astolfo.socialN natty@astolfo.social

                                      @pierogiburo@tech.lgbt this is not to defend reckless LLM use but the "gotchas" and online slamdunks really make me want to quit software circles online

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                                      @natty @pierogiburo yeah -- i do feel like alot of "LLMs and AI are bad" posts quickly turn into shaming and or trying to punish people for using AI, rather than otherwise (its also tbh maybe(?) an issue with OSS in general, that you cant easily criticise design or development choices without inheriently also making it about those people doing those things-) but i would say thats indicitive of a larger soceital issue in general

                                      but anyway -- as for this sentiment around licensing being done unironically ..., yeah .. i kind of feel something simular to this like unironically tbh

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                                      • pierogiburo@tech.lgbtP pierogiburo@tech.lgbt

                                        a friendly reminder:

                                        proprietary software is unethical because it restricts user freedom and evil corporations love that shit

                                        open source is unethical because you're just giving more training data to evil corporations

                                        permissive licenses are unethical because you're allowing evil corporations to use your work

                                        copyleft licenses are unethical because a starving transfem game developer won't be able to use your code in her next game that she really needs to sell because otherwise an evil corporation will evict her from her apartment

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                                        @pierogiburo conclusion : I must make a recursive software license that disallows use in slop training and only allows queers to access and redistribute it
                                        (This will definitely not snowball into everyone declaring themselves queer to grab a copy)

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                                        • li@tech.lgbtL li@tech.lgbt

                                          @pierogiburo i really *really* hate that i have to attach a license to everything i make, what if subtlety threatening everyone around me who uses anything i make sucks actually

                                          like actually, this but unironically.. fuck licenses,

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                                          @Li honestly just slap unlicense into the root of your project and don't worry about it too much

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