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I don't understand the Iran war by the US, I'm guessing I'm just ignorant.

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  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

    I don't understand the Iran war by the US, I'm guessing I'm just ignorant.

    As far as I can see they've assassinated the leader of Iran and his whole family, except his son, then got his very angry son elected as leader... then declared victory and said it's over?

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    @JonChevreau @GossiTheDog Beatss me. Sounds like Iraq all over again. Vietnam all over again. Oh, and well...badge-ism all over again.

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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      Trump has called for an Iran uprising but the lessons from Iraq in 1991 loom large https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0znx4xrl9o

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      I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

      Like - what is the plan here?

      There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

        I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

        Like - what is the plan here?

        There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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        @GossiTheDog RAF Akrotiri got hit by a drone attack and it took the UK a week for them to launch a single frigate to come to the rescue

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

          Like - what is the plan here?

          There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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          @GossiTheDog there's no plan, only concepts of a plan.
          Now on a more serious note, they don't know because their handlers (Thiel, Putin, Netanyahu, etc.) haven't told them yet.

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

            Like - what is the plan here?

            There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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            @GossiTheDog
            It is the spaghetti plan.

            They are throwing everything at the wall in the hopes that people won't (a) notice all the crimming going on, and (b) notice how little they are doing about the Epstein stuff.

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

              Like - what is the plan here?

              There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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              @GossiTheDog The plan was to bomb Iran. Everything after that is being handled as it arises. There was basically no forethought beyond "if we bomb them, we win!”

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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                Like - what is the plan here?

                There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                @GossiTheDog it's completely fucked, the US has its own sectarian bullshit to deal with at the moment. It can't be counted on to fix anyone else's before it rids itself of its own.

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                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                  I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                  Like - what is the plan here?

                  There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                  @GossiTheDog
                  I mean you understand the situation as much as anyone.

                  Almost certainly including everyone in the white house who has access to the nuclear launch codes.

                  Horrifying thought, isn't it.

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                    Like - what is the plan here?

                    There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                    @GossiTheDog There is no plan. The orange terror is simply flapping around, causing immesurable harm in pursuit of something to distract from his previous crimes.

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                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                      I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                      Like - what is the plan here?

                      There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                      @GossiTheDog What makes you think there was a plan?

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                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                        I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                        Like - what is the plan here?

                        There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                        @GossiTheDog They (US) have to claim it's not a war because if it is a war then it's against the US constitution. Congress had no say in it.

                        But the fact of the matter is, it s a war, and it is thus against the US constitution.

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                        • xenophage@infosec.exchangeX xenophage@infosec.exchange

                          @GossiTheDog The plan was to bomb Iran. Everything after that is being handled as it arises. There was basically no forethought beyond "if we bomb them, we win!”

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                          @GossiTheDog Honestly, I think the orange dipshit is completely confused by the fact that we bombed them, killed their leader, and they're still fighting back. I don't think he can comprehend it when there is resistance to what he wants.

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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                            Like - what is the plan here?

                            There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                            @GossiTheDog Hyperreal strategic ambiguity… or maybe total incompetence or a mixture of both… Just a guess from me… Maybe the empire is falling, and this was a last attempt to portray the power of the empire while handing everything over to the new power in the east… or maybe the owners of the US wanted to destabilize the world to legitimize an emergency coup d'état inside the US… due to strategic destabilization of the world…

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              I don't understand the Iran war by the US, I'm guessing I'm just ignorant.

                              As far as I can see they've assassinated the leader of Iran and his whole family, except his son, then got his very angry son elected as leader... then declared victory and said it's over?

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                              @GossiTheDog someone criticized the press recently, saying that if they are still trying to present logical reasons for Trump's actions, that itself is an irrational behavior.

                              It's all so sad. And I feel as a US citizen I have no control over it. We picked up this this phrase "sane washing" but never solved the problem.

                              The irrational drive policy, and the irrational justify it.

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                              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                                Like - what is the plan here?

                                There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                                @GossiTheDog You're assuming there's logic involved. Not a safe assumption.

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                                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                  I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                                  Like - what is the plan here?

                                  There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                                  @GossiTheDog i think the plan is to bomb anywhere for the sake of bombing, in an effort to start a new global war. you can probably safely bet there's some Evangelist bullshit about triggering rapture involved.

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                                    Like - what is the plan here?

                                    There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                                    @GossiTheDog

                                    From what I can work out, Israel coerced the US into joining them in attacking Iran, which was to be followed by Plan A: US- and Israel-loving Iranian people rising up to remove the regime and install a Western-backed Iranian Monarch.

                                    Plan B was to call on the Kurds to rise up and remove the regime....

                                    Plan C seems to be to call on NATO countries to risk civil war at home to join the US and Israel in a medieval-style religious Crusade.

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                                      Like - what is the plan here?

                                      There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                                      @GossiTheDog there is no plan. Trump simply wanted to prevent the press from looking too much at the Epstein files, which is why I find it extraordinarily funny that the name of the operation in the Internet was announced to be "Epstein Fury" 🤣

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                                      • jt_rebelo@ciberlandia.ptJ jt_rebelo@ciberlandia.pt

                                        @GossiTheDog there's no plan, only concepts of a plan.
                                        Now on a more serious note, they don't know because their handlers (Thiel, Putin, Netanyahu, etc.) haven't told them yet.

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                                        @jt_rebelo @GossiTheDog Operation Epstein Distraction

                                        Note that only the US Congress needs to be distracted for the plan to be successful.

                                        As I understand it, the Israeli PM has similar goals

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                                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                          I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                                          Like - what is the plan here?

                                          There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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