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I don't understand the Iran war by the US, I'm guessing I'm just ignorant.

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  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

    Trump has called for an Iran uprising but the lessons from Iraq in 1991 loom large https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0znx4xrl9o

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    @GossiTheDog

    Trump has started a war he doesn't want to fight. He wanted the Iranian people to fight it for him, and when that didn't happen he expected the Kurds to step up.

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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      Trump has called for an Iran uprising but the lessons from Iraq in 1991 loom large https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0znx4xrl9o

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      #22

      @GossiTheDog He treats everything like some sh!tty used car salesman business deal!

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      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

        Trump has called for an Iran uprising but the lessons from Iraq in 1991 loom large https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0znx4xrl9o

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        @GossiTheDog because last time the US installed a leader in Iran went so well...

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        • R raulv@cyberplace.social

          @GossiTheDog so much winning

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          @RaulV @GossiTheDog

          Sorry Raul V I know you're being sarcastic but the Whining from Rump is deafining!

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            I don't understand the Iran war by the US, I'm guessing I'm just ignorant.

            As far as I can see they've assassinated the leader of Iran and his whole family, except his son, then got his very angry son elected as leader... then declared victory and said it's over?

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            @GossiTheDog If you think you don't understand it, then you understand it.

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              I don't understand the Iran war by the US, I'm guessing I'm just ignorant.

              As far as I can see they've assassinated the leader of Iran and his whole family, except his son, then got his very angry son elected as leader... then declared victory and said it's over?

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              @JonChevreau @GossiTheDog Beatss me. Sounds like Iraq all over again. Vietnam all over again. Oh, and well...badge-ism all over again.

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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                Trump has called for an Iran uprising but the lessons from Iraq in 1991 loom large https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0znx4xrl9o

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                #27

                I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                Like - what is the plan here?

                There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

                fraggle@social.coopF jt_rebelo@ciberlandia.ptJ screwturn@mastodon.socialS xenophage@infosec.exchangeX cmthiede@social.vivaldi.netC 23 Replies Last reply
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                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                  I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                  Like - what is the plan here?

                  There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                  @GossiTheDog RAF Akrotiri got hit by a drone attack and it took the UK a week for them to launch a single frigate to come to the rescue

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                    Like - what is the plan here?

                    There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                    #29

                    @GossiTheDog there's no plan, only concepts of a plan.
                    Now on a more serious note, they don't know because their handlers (Thiel, Putin, Netanyahu, etc.) haven't told them yet.

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                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                      I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                      Like - what is the plan here?

                      There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                      @GossiTheDog
                      It is the spaghetti plan.

                      They are throwing everything at the wall in the hopes that people won't (a) notice all the crimming going on, and (b) notice how little they are doing about the Epstein stuff.

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                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                        I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                        Like - what is the plan here?

                        There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                        @GossiTheDog The plan was to bomb Iran. Everything after that is being handled as it arises. There was basically no forethought beyond "if we bomb them, we win!”

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                          Like - what is the plan here?

                          There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                          @GossiTheDog it's completely fucked, the US has its own sectarian bullshit to deal with at the moment. It can't be counted on to fix anyone else's before it rids itself of its own.

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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                            Like - what is the plan here?

                            There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                            @GossiTheDog
                            I mean you understand the situation as much as anyone.

                            Almost certainly including everyone in the white house who has access to the nuclear launch codes.

                            Horrifying thought, isn't it.

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                              Like - what is the plan here?

                              There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                              @GossiTheDog There is no plan. The orange terror is simply flapping around, causing immesurable harm in pursuit of something to distract from his previous crimes.

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                              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                                Like - what is the plan here?

                                There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                                @GossiTheDog What makes you think there was a plan?

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                                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                  I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                                  Like - what is the plan here?

                                  There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                                  @GossiTheDog They (US) have to claim it's not a war because if it is a war then it's against the US constitution. Congress had no say in it.

                                  But the fact of the matter is, it s a war, and it is thus against the US constitution.

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                                  • xenophage@infosec.exchangeX xenophage@infosec.exchange

                                    @GossiTheDog The plan was to bomb Iran. Everything after that is being handled as it arises. There was basically no forethought beyond "if we bomb them, we win!”

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                                    @GossiTheDog Honestly, I think the orange dipshit is completely confused by the fact that we bombed them, killed their leader, and they're still fighting back. I don't think he can comprehend it when there is resistance to what he wants.

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                                      Like - what is the plan here?

                                      There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                                      @GossiTheDog Hyperreal strategic ambiguity… or maybe total incompetence or a mixture of both… Just a guess from me… Maybe the empire is falling, and this was a last attempt to portray the power of the empire while handing everything over to the new power in the east… or maybe the owners of the US wanted to destabilize the world to legitimize an emergency coup d'état inside the US… due to strategic destabilization of the world…

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                                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                        I don't understand the Iran war by the US, I'm guessing I'm just ignorant.

                                        As far as I can see they've assassinated the leader of Iran and his whole family, except his son, then got his very angry son elected as leader... then declared victory and said it's over?

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                                        @GossiTheDog someone criticized the press recently, saying that if they are still trying to present logical reasons for Trump's actions, that itself is an irrational behavior.

                                        It's all so sad. And I feel as a US citizen I have no control over it. We picked up this this phrase "sane washing" but never solved the problem.

                                        The irrational drive policy, and the irrational justify it.

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                                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                          I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                                          Like - what is the plan here?

                                          There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                                          @GossiTheDog You're assuming there's logic involved. Not a safe assumption.

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