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  3. A 29-year-old warehouse worker burned down a Kimberly-Clark warehouse and destroyed $500M in inventory while stating, “All you had to do was pay us enough to live.”

A 29-year-old warehouse worker burned down a Kimberly-Clark warehouse and destroyed $500M in inventory while stating, “All you had to do was pay us enough to live.”

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  • B barbra@social.vivaldi.net

    @QasimRashid

    The economic argument in the video is bs.

    First, two people at that stage would have a comfortable living, so if you're single, double up with someone else. Two income households is the norm nowadays.

    Second, if you can't make a living there on your wage, either change jobs or move somewhere cheaper - you've got the whole country.

    Third, no union? Form a union. Union is ineffective? Work to change it.

    People pull up stakes all the time. Just burning down the place is cowardly.

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    @barbra @QasimRashid Oh sure. Who needs warehouse workers, right? And who needs independence when you can just live in a tenement with seven other people while your landlord gets rich?

    How does it feel to be part of the problem, Barbra?

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      @peterbrown @QasimRashid

      Don't put words in my mouth.

      I have 3 courses of active n which are legal, honourable, and don't result in their co-workers losing their jobs:

      1. Union action;
      2. Change jobs to a lower-cost area. Plenty of workers won't take a job in SillyValley because, even with a 6-figure income, they would have a lower standard of living than making half as much elsewhere;
      3. Finding someone else to share expenses with.

      So instead the asshole put all his co-workers out on the street. I'm sure they just LOVE him for that.

      But HE has no problem - he'll get free room and board and medical care, he's got his, Fuck his co-workers.

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      • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

        @barbra @QasimRashid Oh sure. Who needs warehouse workers, right? And who needs independence when you can just live in a tenement with seven other people while your landlord gets rich?

        How does it feel to be part of the problem, Barbra?

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        @theorangetheme @QasimRashid

        I proposed constructive solutions. Union action wouldn't have left his co-workers and their families out on the street.

        And sharing expenses with ONE (not 7) other person is what plenty of working families do.

        Ask his now-unemployed co-workers how they feel about him. Good thing he's in jail - they'd probably beat the crap out of him because unlike him, who gets all his housing a And medical covered for the next 5-10 years, they're jobless and facing being out on the street and no medical.

        If they were precarious before, they're facing destitution now. Why not spare a thought for them instead of white-knighting this asshole?

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        • B barbra@social.vivaldi.net

          @peterbrown @QasimRashid

          Don't put words in my mouth.

          I have 3 courses of active n which are legal, honourable, and don't result in their co-workers losing their jobs:

          1. Union action;
          2. Change jobs to a lower-cost area. Plenty of workers won't take a job in SillyValley because, even with a 6-figure income, they would have a lower standard of living than making half as much elsewhere;
          3. Finding someone else to share expenses with.

          So instead the asshole put all his co-workers out on the street. I'm sure they just LOVE him for that.

          But HE has no problem - he'll get free room and board and medical care, he's got his, Fuck his co-workers.

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          @barbra @peterbrown @QasimRashid
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRpwVwFxyk4

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          • franceskamann@freeradical.zoneF franceskamann@freeradical.zone

            @geonz @dianea @QasimRashid

            they are a legend and a hero, whether you acknowledge that or not. All she had to do was pay her workers a living wage. Billions in profit. Whose side are you on?

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            @FranceskaMann @dianea @QasimRashid YOu're answerign my question, thanks.

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              @Sfwmson @bweller @QasimRashid in a perfect world (or, I think still happening in some places in the world, and less than a century ago in USA) the CEO salary would be 4x that of a general worker, not 400x

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              • richlv@mastodon.socialR richlv@mastodon.social

                @barbra @peterbrown @QasimRashid
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRpwVwFxyk4

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                @richlv @peterbrown @QasimRashid

                I'm well aware of Amazon's anti-union tactics. One warehouse here unionized, they closed them all down. That doesn't mean that unions aren't viable - just that stronger legislation is needed to level the playing field.

                In other words, change politicians.

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                  @anarchademic

                  Let's do this. I can get behind this.

                  @FranceskaMann @QasimRashid

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                  • qasimrashid@mastodon.socialQ qasimrashid@mastodon.social

                    A 29-year-old warehouse worker burned down a Kimberly-Clark warehouse and destroyed $500M in inventory while stating, “All you had to do was pay us enough to live.”

                    So I quickly researched his claim. And the numbers don’t look good for Kimberly-Clark. https://youtube.com/shorts/uim6Egt66bM?si=rL-_kfaAYX_kkvpm

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                    @QasimRashid O M G. I do understand his sentiment; HOWEVER, this is so extreme. Thanks for the cost of living stats for that area and Kimberly Clark data.

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                    • indigo8s@mastodon.socialI indigo8s@mastodon.social

                      @QasimRashid O M G. I do understand his sentiment; HOWEVER, this is so extreme. Thanks for the cost of living stats for that area and Kimberly Clark data.

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                      @indigo8s extreme is how id describe wealth inequality the rich perpetrate

                      this is just a toilet paper fire. literally shit tickets. just stuff. not working class people.

                      @QasimRashid

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                        @peterbrown @QasimRashid Thank you for this gem of a chart! As a child of the 1950s, I learned from my modest income parents (children during the Great Depression) that the rich were finally paying their fair share in the 1950s and early 1960s.

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                        • bweller@mstdn.socialB bweller@mstdn.social

                          @indigo8s extreme is how id describe wealth inequality the rich perpetrate

                          this is just a toilet paper fire. literally shit tickets. just stuff. not working class people.

                          @QasimRashid

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                          @bweller @QasimRashid Yes, that too!

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                          • B barbra@social.vivaldi.net

                            @QasimRashid

                            The economic argument in the video is bs.

                            First, two people at that stage would have a comfortable living, so if you're single, double up with someone else. Two income households is the norm nowadays.

                            Second, if you can't make a living there on your wage, either change jobs or move somewhere cheaper - you've got the whole country.

                            Third, no union? Form a union. Union is ineffective? Work to change it.

                            People pull up stakes all the time. Just burning down the place is cowardly.

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                            @barbra @QasimRashid
                            Just dropping in here to say fuck off, barbra. Fix your heart, collaborator.

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                            • B barbra@social.vivaldi.net

                              @peterbrown @QasimRashid

                              Don't put words in my mouth.

                              I have 3 courses of active n which are legal, honourable, and don't result in their co-workers losing their jobs:

                              1. Union action;
                              2. Change jobs to a lower-cost area. Plenty of workers won't take a job in SillyValley because, even with a 6-figure income, they would have a lower standard of living than making half as much elsewhere;
                              3. Finding someone else to share expenses with.

                              So instead the asshole put all his co-workers out on the street. I'm sure they just LOVE him for that.

                              But HE has no problem - he'll get free room and board and medical care, he's got his, Fuck his co-workers.

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                              @barbra @peterbrown @QasimRashid I’m pretty sure his coworkers won’t be out on the street. Someone very clever suggested people could just form a union, live in a multi income household or get a job elsewhere.

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                              • B barbra@social.vivaldi.net

                                @richlv @peterbrown @QasimRashid

                                I'm well aware of Amazon's anti-union tactics. One warehouse here unionized, they closed them all down. That doesn't mean that unions aren't viable - just that stronger legislation is needed to level the playing field.

                                In other words, change politicians.

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                                @barbra @peterbrown @QasimRashid It looks like some people feel like they are trapped and have no agency. If you want to give them orders, you'd have to go in and do things first.

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                                • technicaladept@techhub.socialT technicaladept@techhub.social

                                  @barbra @peterbrown @QasimRashid I’m pretty sure his coworkers won’t be out on the street. Someone very clever suggested people could just form a union, live in a multi income household or get a job elsewhere.

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                                  @technicaladept @peterbrown @QasimRashid

                                  His co-workers COULD have done those things, but once he burned down the place, their jobs are permanently gone. The warehouse was owned by a 3rd party, so this is an opportunity for Kimberly -Clark to get rid of the hub-and-spoke distribution model, and drop-ship to their largest customers, so those warehouse jobs are gone forever. Any future warehouses will be much smaller, and may even be "dark", only requiring a couple of rent-a-cops and one afternoon a week for scheduled inspection and maintenance.

                                  But the asshole who set the fire doesn't have to worry about a job for at least 5 years. He's got his, selfish bastard.

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                                  • h2onolan@infosec.exchangeH h2onolan@infosec.exchange

                                    @barbra @QasimRashid
                                    Just dropping in here to say fuck off, barbra. Fix your heart, collaborator.

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                                    @h2onolan @QasimRashid

                                    How does pointing out that this asshole cost his co-workers their jobs make me a "collaborator?" And this doesn't count the other jobs lost from suppliers, big and small, in the community.

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