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"You go to sleep, the agent does the science and when you wake up, you have the results."

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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

    "You go to sleep, the agent does the science and when you wake up, you have the results."

    That's not how any of this works. You're not "doing research with help" you have something generated that looks like a research report. Without the research happening. How many different ways can "AI" bros find to express "I AM TOTALLY MISSING THE POINT"?

    kkarhan@infosec.spaceK This user is from outside of this forum
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    @tante YES!

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    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

      "You go to sleep, the agent does the science and when you wake up, you have the results."

      That's not how any of this works. You're not "doing research with help" you have something generated that looks like a research report. Without the research happening. How many different ways can "AI" bros find to express "I AM TOTALLY MISSING THE POINT"?

      prietschka@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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      @tante All the sub-troglodyte intellects in academia showing themselves with the help of AI.

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      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

        "You go to sleep, the agent does the science and when you wake up, you have the results."

        That's not how any of this works. You're not "doing research with help" you have something generated that looks like a research report. Without the research happening. How many different ways can "AI" bros find to express "I AM TOTALLY MISSING THE POINT"?

        david@openbiblio.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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        @tante who wrote that? it’s silly.

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        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

          "You go to sleep, the agent does the science and when you wake up, you have the results."

          That's not how any of this works. You're not "doing research with help" you have something generated that looks like a research report. Without the research happening. How many different ways can "AI" bros find to express "I AM TOTALLY MISSING THE POINT"?

          mmby@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @tante did the correlation machine find some causation?

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          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

            "You go to sleep, the agent does the science and when you wake up, you have the results."

            That's not how any of this works. You're not "doing research with help" you have something generated that looks like a research report. Without the research happening. How many different ways can "AI" bros find to express "I AM TOTALLY MISSING THE POINT"?

            liw@toot.liw.fiL This user is from outside of this forum
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            @tante 25 years ago I saw the number 12765 inside the cap of a soda bottle. Part of a game. Seems like as good an answer as any.

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            • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

              "You go to sleep, the agent does the science and when you wake up, you have the results."

              That's not how any of this works. You're not "doing research with help" you have something generated that looks like a research report. Without the research happening. How many different ways can "AI" bros find to express "I AM TOTALLY MISSING THE POINT"?

              n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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              @tante

              The latest models are largely written by other models.

              The goal of #OpenAi is not to develop #AGI...
              ...but to develop an AI, AI researcher that can then develop AGI

              Most frontier models are at about 40% on Humanities Last Exam, they sat on about 3% when launched. They can defo do zero shot knowledge

              TLDR; AI can do research.

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              • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                @tante

                The latest models are largely written by other models.

                The goal of #OpenAi is not to develop #AGI...
                ...but to develop an AI, AI researcher that can then develop AGI

                Most frontier models are at about 40% on Humanities Last Exam, they sat on about 3% when launched. They can defo do zero shot knowledge

                TLDR; AI can do research.

                tante@tldr.nettime.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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                @n_dimension Models are not "written", they are "trained". That is very much different. And sure frontier models are good at standard tests. It's basically open book testing.

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                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                  "You go to sleep, the agent does the science and when you wake up, you have the results."

                  That's not how any of this works. You're not "doing research with help" you have something generated that looks like a research report. Without the research happening. How many different ways can "AI" bros find to express "I AM TOTALLY MISSING THE POINT"?

                  korenchkin@chaos.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @tante why don't they just have an agent come up with a way of missing the point? Such a missed opportunity.

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                  • korenchkin@chaos.socialK korenchkin@chaos.social

                    @tante why don't they just have an agent come up with a way of missing the point? Such a missed opportunity.

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                    @korenchkin they probably are

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                    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                      "You go to sleep, the agent does the science and when you wake up, you have the results."

                      That's not how any of this works. You're not "doing research with help" you have something generated that looks like a research report. Without the research happening. How many different ways can "AI" bros find to express "I AM TOTALLY MISSING THE POINT"?

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                      @tante but if AI says it has done it, then it must have done it, right?

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                      • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                        @tante

                        The latest models are largely written by other models.

                        The goal of #OpenAi is not to develop #AGI...
                        ...but to develop an AI, AI researcher that can then develop AGI

                        Most frontier models are at about 40% on Humanities Last Exam, they sat on about 3% when launched. They can defo do zero shot knowledge

                        TLDR; AI can do research.

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                        @n_dimension

                        As you know, research leads to patents and patents lead to profit.

                        So, if LLMs can produce valuable research, why do not AI industries keep the usage of their tools for themselves instead of generously offer them to competitor industries ?

                        @tante

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                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                          @n_dimension Models are not "written", they are "trained". That is very much different. And sure frontier models are good at standard tests. It's basically open book testing.

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                          @tante

                          Written not trained.
                          #vibecoding
                          https://www.hyperdimensional.co/p/on-recursive-self-improvement-part

                          Humanity's last exam is not open book, it's been expressly designed to exclude Ai available datasets and centres around specific domain knowledge. Check it out.

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