#YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way
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I was ranting about algorithms earlier today:
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@jackwilliambell @TimMaddog @stux I just saw this sign and now I get it https://beige.party/@OddJob/116257887343424021
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The general;
"Here is a video about something no one on this planet knows but it's of super massive importance"
Kinda a description for conspiracy theories, making you feel 'special' because you get to know something and others "just don't know"
Bullshit alarm
If you disable watch history and use the subscription page you get an almost* unmodufied reverse chronological feed of videos as they are released by those you are subscribed to and no one else.
* Apart from (1) they still insert algorithmically suggested shorts every so often in an attempt to lure you into mindless swiping. And (2) the videos shown below any video you open are then recs based on that that video so watch and then always click back to your own time ordered feed.
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#YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way
My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two
Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess
And it's always down a negative path it seems
@stux My "feed" is what I subscribed to, thanks NewPipe/Piped.
It's kinda beyond me why people want to see anything but what they decided to see. Like why let a company which's only interest is profit and making the rich richer spoonfeed what you see and base your opinion on? That's some of the most anti-freedom and anti-democratic behaviour I can imagine.
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#YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way
My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two
Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess
And it's always down a negative path it seems
all algo's do that. I knew, when I was on tik tok, that when a video with a wall of text popped up that I needed to flick videos away until I got a cat video and then the FYP feed would be normal for a while. the wall of text videos were the beginning of a dark hole that ends with gang stalking videos.
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The general;
"Here is a video about something no one on this planet knows but it's of super massive importance"
Kinda a description for conspiracy theories, making you feel 'special' because you get to know something and others "just don't know"
Bullshit alarm
@stux there is market value to a third party to drag you down into hell, there is desire but no market to lift you up
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#YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way
My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two
Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess
And it's always down a negative path it seems
@stux
I think I watched about 30 seconds of an environmental science hoax video a couple of days ago before realizing what it was, but it was enough to trigger a deluge. I would occasionally get a nutball recommendation in my feed before that, but today was a flood of right wing nutballs.My main viewing is EVs/battery tech, basketball, poker, science and anime.
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#YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way
My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two
Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess
And it's always down a negative path it seems
@stux You can most clearly see the effect by using anon ('incognito') browser mode over a VPN. This gives YT nothing to use as background for making suggestions that are unrelated to the current video.
Then access some video you're interested in, say music or renewable energy, and lo and behold... Youtube insists on suggesting the most awful non-related crap. They are probably a worse source of brainwashing than even Xitter.
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#YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way
My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two
Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess
And it's always down a negative path it seems
@stux My feed consists of TTS skits, VHS tapes, including television and personal collections, more nostalgia, music, gaming, more television broadcasts from the 90s and 2000s, and maybe later than that, radio recordings/airchecks, storytelling, aviation, and independent weather channels. Also, why would they put an algorithm on the subscription feed? It doesn't belong their! They got the subscription feed all kinds of crazy, especially on the mobile app.
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If you disable watch history and use the subscription page you get an almost* unmodufied reverse chronological feed of videos as they are released by those you are subscribed to and no one else.
* Apart from (1) they still insert algorithmically suggested shorts every so often in an attempt to lure you into mindless swiping. And (2) the videos shown below any video you open are then recs based on that that video so watch and then always click back to your own time ordered feed.
This. Oh, and they'll try every dark pattern in the book to get you to switch it back on.
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#YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way
My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two
Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess
And it's always down a negative path it seems
@stux In....2009? My oldest was able to get on to yt, pc was in a shared room.
The only rule? Do not click on the right hand side in the suggested area.
3 clicks on that would bring you directly to utter destruction, just awful stuff. -
#YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way
My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two
Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess
And it's always down a negative path it seems
@stux
I just stopped clicking on any link to YouTube. Works for me. -
The general;
"Here is a video about something no one on this planet knows but it's of super massive importance"
Kinda a description for conspiracy theories, making you feel 'special' because you get to know something and others "just don't know"
Bullshit alarm
@stux it’s definitely changed. All my YouTube rabbit holes used to end at videos of extremely large engines being started. Now they end at absolute bellends claiming white genocide.
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#YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way
My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two
Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess
And it's always down a negative path it seems
@stux newpipe/pipepipe/another fork + blocking recommended videos. It doesn't address the bigger issue but it would be better for you.
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