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#YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way

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  • stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way

    My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two

    Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess

    And it's always down a negative path it seems

    stux@mstdn.socialS stellarsarah@mastodon.worldS wonkothesane@mstdn.socialW dbailey635@mstdn.socialD the_moep@mastodon.deT 12 Replies Last reply
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    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

      #YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way

      My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two

      Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess

      And it's always down a negative path it seems

      stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
      stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
      stux@mstdn.social
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      #2

      The general;

      "Here is a video about something no one on this planet knows but it's of super massive importance"

      Kinda a description for conspiracy theories, making you feel 'special' because you get to know something and others "just don't know"

      Bullshit alarm 🐮

      timmaddog@mstdn.socialT helvick@mastodon.ieH chuckmcmanis@chaos.socialC wifiwits@infosec.exchangeW 4 Replies Last reply
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      • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

        #YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way

        My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two

        Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess

        And it's always down a negative path it seems

        stellarsarah@mastodon.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
        stellarsarah@mastodon.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
        stellarsarah@mastodon.world
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        #3

        @stux I watched some ancient history videos on YT a while back and then it recommended me more... but the recommendations turned out to be ancient history as told by a white supremacist. I wasted a good amount of time listening to this guy before he started being blatant enough for me to look up the user to see if this was a known issue with him (and it was).

        Now I basically don't take their recommendations unless it's already a YouTuber I already know.

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        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

          The general;

          "Here is a video about something no one on this planet knows but it's of super massive importance"

          Kinda a description for conspiracy theories, making you feel 'special' because you get to know something and others "just don't know"

          Bullshit alarm 🐮

          timmaddog@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
          timmaddog@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
          timmaddog@mstdn.social
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          #4

          @stux
          Control the #algorithm on *your* terms. 🤔

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          • timmaddog@mstdn.socialT timmaddog@mstdn.social

            @stux
            Control the #algorithm on *your* terms. 🤔

            jackwilliambell@rustedneuron.comJ This user is from outside of this forum
            jackwilliambell@rustedneuron.comJ This user is from outside of this forum
            jackwilliambell@rustedneuron.com
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            #5

            @TimMaddog @stux

            I was ranting about algorithms earlier today:

            > https://rustedneuron.com/deck/@jackwilliambell/116256816174254703

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            • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

              #YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way

              My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two

              Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess

              And it's always down a negative path it seems

              wonkothesane@mstdn.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
              wonkothesane@mstdn.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
              wonkothesane@mstdn.social
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              #6

              @stux They’ve even put an algorithm into your subscription feed now

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              • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                #YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way

                My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two

                Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess

                And it's always down a negative path it seems

                dbailey635@mstdn.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                dbailey635@mstdn.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                dbailey635@mstdn.social
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                #7

                @stux It recommends stuff that other people with similar profiles to you have watched, but there are a lot of gullible idiots out there.

                A cleaner feed should come from good feedback. When confronted with low quality junk, click the Ellipsis button and then select “not interested”. Liberally use the “don’t recommend this channel” button. Report and flag to get channels demonetised. After a while, the algorithm should stop recommending far-right crap, AI slop, and conspiracy theories to you.

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                • jackwilliambell@rustedneuron.comJ jackwilliambell@rustedneuron.com

                  @TimMaddog @stux

                  I was ranting about algorithms earlier today:

                  > https://rustedneuron.com/deck/@jackwilliambell/116256816174254703

                  amro@todon.nlA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @jackwilliambell @TimMaddog @stux I just saw this sign and now I get it https://beige.party/@OddJob/116257887343424021

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                  • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                    The general;

                    "Here is a video about something no one on this planet knows but it's of super massive importance"

                    Kinda a description for conspiracy theories, making you feel 'special' because you get to know something and others "just don't know"

                    Bullshit alarm 🐮

                    helvick@mastodon.ieH This user is from outside of this forum
                    helvick@mastodon.ieH This user is from outside of this forum
                    helvick@mastodon.ie
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                    #9

                    @stux

                    If you disable watch history and use the subscription page you get an almost* unmodufied reverse chronological feed of videos as they are released by those you are subscribed to and no one else.

                    * Apart from (1) they still insert algorithmically suggested shorts every so often in an attempt to lure you into mindless swiping. And (2) the videos shown below any video you open are then recs based on that that video so watch and then always click back to your own time ordered feed.

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                    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                      #YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way

                      My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two

                      Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess

                      And it's always down a negative path it seems

                      the_moep@mastodon.deT This user is from outside of this forum
                      the_moep@mastodon.deT This user is from outside of this forum
                      the_moep@mastodon.de
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                      #10

                      @stux My "feed" is what I subscribed to, thanks NewPipe/Piped. 👀

                      It's kinda beyond me why people want to see anything but what they decided to see. Like why let a company which's only interest is profit and making the rich richer spoonfeed what you see and base your opinion on? That's some of the most anti-freedom and anti-democratic behaviour I can imagine.

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                      • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                        #YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way

                        My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two

                        Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess

                        And it's always down a negative path it seems

                        coolcalmcollected@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                        coolcalmcollected@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                        coolcalmcollected@mastodon.social
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                        #11

                        @stux

                        all algo's do that. I knew, when I was on tik tok, that when a video with a wall of text popped up that I needed to flick videos away until I got a cat video and then the FYP feed would be normal for a while. the wall of text videos were the beginning of a dark hole that ends with gang stalking videos.

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                        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                          The general;

                          "Here is a video about something no one on this planet knows but it's of super massive importance"

                          Kinda a description for conspiracy theories, making you feel 'special' because you get to know something and others "just don't know"

                          Bullshit alarm 🐮

                          chuckmcmanis@chaos.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                          chuckmcmanis@chaos.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                          chuckmcmanis@chaos.social
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                          #12

                          @stux there is market value to a third party to drag you down into hell, there is desire but no market to lift you up

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                          • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                            #YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way

                            My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two

                            Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess

                            And it's always down a negative path it seems

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                            edsanders2@mstdn.social
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                            @stux
                            I think I watched about 30 seconds of an environmental science hoax video a couple of days ago before realizing what it was, but it was enough to trigger a deluge. I would occasionally get a nutball recommendation in my feed before that, but today was a flood of right wing nutballs.

                            My main viewing is EVs/battery tech, basketball, poker, science and anime.

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                            • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                              #YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way

                              My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two

                              Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess

                              And it's always down a negative path it seems

                              tasket@infosec.exchangeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                              tasket@infosec.exchange
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                              #14

                              @stux You can most clearly see the effect by using anon ('incognito') browser mode over a VPN. This gives YT nothing to use as background for making suggestions that are unrelated to the current video.

                              Then access some video you're interested in, say music or renewable energy, and lo and behold... Youtube insists on suggesting the most awful non-related crap. They are probably a worse source of brainwashing than even Xitter.

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                              • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                #YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way

                                My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two

                                Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess

                                And it's always down a negative path it seems

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                                blindy@convo.casa
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                                @stux My feed consists of TTS skits, VHS tapes, including television and personal collections, more nostalgia, music, gaming, more television broadcasts from the 90s and 2000s, and maybe later than that, radio recordings/airchecks, storytelling, aviation, and independent weather channels. Also, why would they put an algorithm on the subscription feed? It doesn't belong their! They got the subscription feed all kinds of crazy, especially on the mobile app.

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                                • helvick@mastodon.ieH helvick@mastodon.ie

                                  @stux

                                  If you disable watch history and use the subscription page you get an almost* unmodufied reverse chronological feed of videos as they are released by those you are subscribed to and no one else.

                                  * Apart from (1) they still insert algorithmically suggested shorts every so often in an attempt to lure you into mindless swiping. And (2) the videos shown below any video you open are then recs based on that that video so watch and then always click back to your own time ordered feed.

                                  orb2069@mastodon.onlineO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  orb2069@mastodon.online
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                                  @helvick

                                  This. Oh, and they'll try every dark pattern in the book to get you to switch it back on.

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                                  • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                    #YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way

                                    My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two

                                    Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess

                                    And it's always down a negative path it seems

                                    J This user is from outside of this forum
                                    J This user is from outside of this forum
                                    j0j0king@mastodon.social
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                                    #17

                                    @stux In....2009? My oldest was able to get on to yt, pc was in a shared room.
                                    The only rule? Do not click on the right hand side in the suggested area.
                                    3 clicks on that would bring you directly to utter destruction, just awful stuff.

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                                    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                      #YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way

                                      My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two

                                      Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess

                                      And it's always down a negative path it seems

                                      wyliecoyoteuk@mastodon.org.ukW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      wyliecoyoteuk@mastodon.org.uk
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                                      #18

                                      @stux
                                      I just stopped clicking on any link to YouTube. Works for me.

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                                      • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                        The general;

                                        "Here is a video about something no one on this planet knows but it's of super massive importance"

                                        Kinda a description for conspiracy theories, making you feel 'special' because you get to know something and others "just don't know"

                                        Bullshit alarm 🐮

                                        wifiwits@infosec.exchangeW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wifiwits@infosec.exchange
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                                        @stux it’s definitely changed. All my YouTube rabbit holes used to end at videos of extremely large engines being started. Now they end at absolute bellends claiming white genocide.

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                                        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                          #YouTube is trying so hard to "poison" my feed, I can see why a lot of people start falling down dark rabbit holes this way

                                          My feed is mostly; science, space, politics and some gamedev but especially in the first two

                                          Made up bullshit can be used to hook people for a lot longer then actual facts these days I guess

                                          And it's always down a negative path it seems

                                          sinmisterios@mastodon.uyS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          sinmisterios@mastodon.uy
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                                          #20

                                          @stux newpipe/pipepipe/another fork + blocking recommended videos. It doesn't address the bigger issue but it would be better for you.

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