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  3. Woke up to the good news that the Gorton & Denton by-election was won by the Greens, who stomped all over Reform UK and left Labour in third place—in a constituency where Labour hasn't lost an election since 1931.

Woke up to the good news that the Gorton & Denton by-election was won by the Greens, who stomped all over Reform UK and left Labour in third place—in a constituency where Labour hasn't lost an election since 1931.

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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    @jkcheney Bear in mind that until 2010 the Conservative party wasn't desperately running to the right to outflank the far-right insurgency. And a bunch of voters are tribal—they vote the same way grandpa did. Reform UK has a *huge* grip on the news media in the UK (because: billionaire oligarchs) but the public aren't quite so keen, it turns out. Being told the Tories had collapsed, a lot of Tory voters went for the closest thing on the menu—Reform UK—so that 29% is actually a coalition.

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    @cstross

    That makes sense. I feel like ours group of weirdos is the same thing. Most of my family voted in that block, but only about half for racist reasons.

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    • davep@infosec.exchangeD davep@infosec.exchange

      @cstross Plumber?

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      @davep it's the slur that is used to describe people used to describe people of South Asian decent

      cc: @cstross

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      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

        Woke up to the good news that the Gorton & Denton by-election was won by the Greens, who stomped all over Reform UK and left Labour in third place—in a constituency where Labour hasn't lost an election since 1931.

        Reform UK candidate showed his true colours, ranting about a "Woke and Muslim conspiracy", of course. (This is the guy who wants to change the law to force women to get married and have more babies, deport non-whites, and criminalize LGBT+ people, starting with the trans.)

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        @cstross makes you wonder who really wants to enforce "Shari'a Law"?

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        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

          Woke up to the good news that the Gorton & Denton by-election was won by the Greens, who stomped all over Reform UK and left Labour in third place—in a constituency where Labour hasn't lost an election since 1931.

          Reform UK candidate showed his true colours, ranting about a "Woke and Muslim conspiracy", of course. (This is the guy who wants to change the law to force women to get married and have more babies, deport non-whites, and criminalize LGBT+ people, starting with the trans.)

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          @cstross TBF Labour have lost many local elections in this constituency since 1931.

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          • diffrentcolours@tech.lgbtD diffrentcolours@tech.lgbt

            @cstross TBF Labour have lost many local elections in this constituency since 1931.

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            @diffrentcolours Not according to their candidate last night … (are you conflating council elections, by-elections, and/or general elections?)

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            • infoseepage@mastodon.socialI infoseepage@mastodon.social

              @cstross Green IS electable and by showing that I think they're going to benefit from a little bit of a snowball as I think more people who have historically voted Labour will be willing to move their vote now.

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              @Infoseepage
              Green MPs improve Parliament. Quite a lot of them would improve it quite a lot more.
              I think we need a phase where they acquire competence before they take the great offices of State.

              So far as Reform goes, they'll avoid competence, the Tories have lost it, and Labour has a historical depth of it and various ministers from previous and current government.

              Oh, and LibDems. Um.

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              • arafel@mas.toA arafel@mas.to

                @cstross Anyone trying to spin "Muslims voting for a woman in a party led by a gay Jewish man" (quote taken from elsewhere) as evidence of a Muslim conspiracy deserves every hard time they get.

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                @arafel
                Just proves how sneaky they are.
                @cstross

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                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                  Woke up to the good news that the Gorton & Denton by-election was won by the Greens, who stomped all over Reform UK and left Labour in third place—in a constituency where Labour hasn't lost an election since 1931.

                  Reform UK candidate showed his true colours, ranting about a "Woke and Muslim conspiracy", of course. (This is the guy who wants to change the law to force women to get married and have more babies, deport non-whites, and criminalize LGBT+ people, starting with the trans.)

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                  @cstross
                  _Entirely_ without evidence or investigation I incline to suspect he wants to force women to have _his_ babies, and may have already implemented attempts at this.
                  And is in congenial company in that Party.

                  (Congeners: blamed for hangovers)

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                  • photo55@mastodon.socialP photo55@mastodon.social

                    @cstross
                    _Entirely_ without evidence or investigation I incline to suspect he wants to force women to have _his_ babies, and may have already implemented attempts at this.
                    And is in congenial company in that Party.

                    (Congeners: blamed for hangovers)

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                    @Photo55 Yes, exactly. He's got a troublesome history with a neo-nazi eugenicist "think tank": always looks to be about 3 seconds away from spitting out the 14 words and goose-stepping off the podium sieg heiling.

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                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                      My bad: apparently he was ranting about a "woke progressive and muslim" conspiracy. I forgot the P word, so obviously a dominant factor in English politics over the past seven decades.

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                      @cstross a conspiracy to vote against someone is, of course, just called a "majority"

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                      • hakona@im.alstadheim.noH hakona@im.alstadheim.no

                        @arafel
                        Just proves how sneaky they are.
                        @cstross

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                        @hakona @cstross Maybe. I think it’s more that they only have one note, and they just keep hammering it. If all you have is a hammer, and all that.

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