Woke up to the good news that the Gorton & Denton by-election was won by the Greens, who stomped all over Reform UK and left Labour in third place—in a constituency where Labour hasn't lost an election since 1931.
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Gorton & Denton was the Green Party's 127th ranked target constituency, implying that on current popularity they'd win at least 127 seats in a general election—but probably more, because their G&D win margin was over 4000 votes, and they've broken out of their normal southern areas. Labour support among muslim voters has collapsed over Starmer's Gaza policy.
And 67% of voters rejected the far right politics of Reform, who got 29% of the vote.
@cstross reform got about 13% of the total eligible voters, so suggests they struggle break out of “committed racists” core base who are about 8-10%[1]
It’s only media hype that they’ve got so far!
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Gorton & Denton was the Green Party's 127th ranked target constituency, implying that on current popularity they'd win at least 127 seats in a general election—but probably more, because their G&D win margin was over 4000 votes, and they've broken out of their normal southern areas. Labour support among muslim voters has collapsed over Starmer's Gaza policy.
And 67% of voters rejected the far right politics of Reform, who got 29% of the vote.
And I keep wondering (as I do with our politics over here) what is wrong with that 29%? *
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And I keep wondering (as I do with our politics over here) what is wrong with that 29%? *
@jkcheney Bear in mind that until 2010 the Conservative party wasn't desperately running to the right to outflank the far-right insurgency. And a bunch of voters are tribal—they vote the same way grandpa did. Reform UK has a *huge* grip on the news media in the UK (because: billionaire oligarchs) but the public aren't quite so keen, it turns out. Being told the Tories had collapsed, a lot of Tory voters went for the closest thing on the menu—Reform UK—so that 29% is actually a coalition.
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My bad: apparently he was ranting about a "woke progressive and muslim" conspiracy. I forgot the P word, so obviously a dominant factor in English politics over the past seven decades.
@cstross Plumber?
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@jkcheney Bear in mind that until 2010 the Conservative party wasn't desperately running to the right to outflank the far-right insurgency. And a bunch of voters are tribal—they vote the same way grandpa did. Reform UK has a *huge* grip on the news media in the UK (because: billionaire oligarchs) but the public aren't quite so keen, it turns out. Being told the Tories had collapsed, a lot of Tory voters went for the closest thing on the menu—Reform UK—so that 29% is actually a coalition.
That makes sense. I feel like ours group of weirdos is the same thing. Most of my family voted in that block, but only about half for racist reasons.
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@cstross Plumber?
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Woke up to the good news that the Gorton & Denton by-election was won by the Greens, who stomped all over Reform UK and left Labour in third place—in a constituency where Labour hasn't lost an election since 1931.
Reform UK candidate showed his true colours, ranting about a "Woke and Muslim conspiracy", of course. (This is the guy who wants to change the law to force women to get married and have more babies, deport non-whites, and criminalize LGBT+ people, starting with the trans.)
@cstross makes you wonder who really wants to enforce "Shari'a Law"?
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Woke up to the good news that the Gorton & Denton by-election was won by the Greens, who stomped all over Reform UK and left Labour in third place—in a constituency where Labour hasn't lost an election since 1931.
Reform UK candidate showed his true colours, ranting about a "Woke and Muslim conspiracy", of course. (This is the guy who wants to change the law to force women to get married and have more babies, deport non-whites, and criminalize LGBT+ people, starting with the trans.)
@cstross TBF Labour have lost many local elections in this constituency since 1931.
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@cstross TBF Labour have lost many local elections in this constituency since 1931.
@diffrentcolours Not according to their candidate last night … (are you conflating council elections, by-elections, and/or general elections?)
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@cstross Green IS electable and by showing that I think they're going to benefit from a little bit of a snowball as I think more people who have historically voted Labour will be willing to move their vote now.
@Infoseepage
Green MPs improve Parliament. Quite a lot of them would improve it quite a lot more.
I think we need a phase where they acquire competence before they take the great offices of State.So far as Reform goes, they'll avoid competence, the Tories have lost it, and Labour has a historical depth of it and various ministers from previous and current government.
Oh, and LibDems. Um.
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@cstross Anyone trying to spin "Muslims voting for a woman in a party led by a gay Jewish man" (quote taken from elsewhere) as evidence of a Muslim conspiracy deserves every hard time they get.
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Woke up to the good news that the Gorton & Denton by-election was won by the Greens, who stomped all over Reform UK and left Labour in third place—in a constituency where Labour hasn't lost an election since 1931.
Reform UK candidate showed his true colours, ranting about a "Woke and Muslim conspiracy", of course. (This is the guy who wants to change the law to force women to get married and have more babies, deport non-whites, and criminalize LGBT+ people, starting with the trans.)
@cstross
_Entirely_ without evidence or investigation I incline to suspect he wants to force women to have _his_ babies, and may have already implemented attempts at this.
And is in congenial company in that Party.(Congeners: blamed for hangovers)
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@cstross
_Entirely_ without evidence or investigation I incline to suspect he wants to force women to have _his_ babies, and may have already implemented attempts at this.
And is in congenial company in that Party.(Congeners: blamed for hangovers)
@Photo55 Yes, exactly. He's got a troublesome history with a neo-nazi eugenicist "think tank": always looks to be about 3 seconds away from spitting out the 14 words and goose-stepping off the podium sieg heiling.
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My bad: apparently he was ranting about a "woke progressive and muslim" conspiracy. I forgot the P word, so obviously a dominant factor in English politics over the past seven decades.
@cstross a conspiracy to vote against someone is, of course, just called a "majority"
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