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  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

    what are we even doing here man

    nuclearoatmeal@beige.partyN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #26

    @foone

    Well, ok, that's a silly requirement. But do you have experience in Loops (flow control)?

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    • th@social.v.stT th@social.v.st

      @foone I've posted this page from Usborne's guide to jargon before and commented that I'd be happy if all programmers were as computer literate as grade school students in the 80s.

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      @th god that'd be nice

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      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

        See? Page 9. Arrays.

        klausman@mas.toK This user is from outside of this forum
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        @foone What's weird is that I distincly remember page 9 (its illustrations, mostly), but I don't remember the book cover. I grew up in 80s West Germany, so maybe they were used in a different (or translated) book. Definitely a nostalgia hit ๐Ÿ™‚

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        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

          if someone doesn't have experience with arrays, then they don't have enough experience with programming to hire them to program for you. they are still on page 9 of the programming book

          revk@toot.me.ukR This user is from outside of this forum
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          @foone reminds me of the early 80s where we got code form teachers for educational stuff. And one guy understood subroutines by not arrays. He had one that was full of
          IF I=1 RETURN V1
          IF I=2 RETURN V2
          โ€ฆ
          Amazing stuff.

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          • klausman@mas.toK klausman@mas.to

            @foone What's weird is that I distincly remember page 9 (its illustrations, mostly), but I don't remember the book cover. I grew up in 80s West Germany, so maybe they were used in a different (or translated) book. Definitely a nostalgia hit ๐Ÿ™‚

            foone@digipres.clubF This user is from outside of this forum
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            #30

            @klausman yeah, different publishers often use different covers, so I imagine the west german publisher just made their own cover

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            • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

              Usborne released a bunch of their old 80s programming books for free a while back, and they're all just a gem:

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              Computer and coding books from Usborne | Usborne | Be Curious

              Usborne children's coding books for a new generation

              favicon

              (usborne.com)

              flxtr@social.tchncs.deF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #31

              @foone For non-us users: the site is guessing your country and redirects to 404 page, if guess != "us" ๐Ÿ™„ But it's not geo fencing. You need to pick en-us at the home page and then request the above URL again. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

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              • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                what are we even doing here man

                seconduniverse@autistics.lifeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #32

                @foone hey I know arrays! I can do big ones, small ones, multidimensional ones. I also know variables and indentation!!! Hire me!!!!!!!!

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                • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                  what are we even doing here man

                  mahadevank@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #33

                  @foone yeah, that's it - arrays - that's all I have experience with, give me a dict and I'm going to be stumped.

                  No records for me, only a long list of items lol

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                  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                    if someone doesn't have experience with arrays, then they don't have enough experience with programming to hire them to program for you. they are still on page 9 of the programming book

                    mellivora@im-in.spaceM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #34

                    @foone was confused for a minute till I saw the full thread... lol

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                    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                      if someone doesn't have experience with arrays, then they don't have enough experience with programming to hire them to program for you. they are still on page 9 of the programming book

                      farhaven@mastodon.cloudF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #35

                      @foone Easy for you to say. I've been making do with red-black trees all this time.

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                      • farhaven@mastodon.cloudF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @petealexharris @linear @foone Or had one of those insane managers who misread something somewhere once where some problem was caused by someone misuing an array, so they banned all array use in the whole company.

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                        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                          what are we even doing here man

                          h5e@tech.lgbtH This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #37

                          @foone but do you know Keyboard (input device)?

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                          • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

                            @foone reminds me of the early 80s where we got code form teachers for educational stuff. And one guy understood subroutines by not arrays. He had one that was full of
                            IF I=1 RETURN V1
                            IF I=2 RETURN V2
                            โ€ฆ
                            Amazing stuff.

                            henryk@chaos.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #38

                            @revk @foone That is one of my memories from programming as a child. I was ~10 years old. I saw the starry night screensaver in Norton Commander and wanted a similar effect in QBasic.
                            Lots of copy and paste later I had like 15 pairs of x,y coordinate variables (x1,y1,x2,y2,.โ€ฆ), a cycle counter that goes from 1 to 15, and a shitload of if then clauses: delete star at x1,y1, assign new coordinates, paint star, wait, delete star at x2, y2, etc. pp.
                            It was awesome, but was hard to add more stars.

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                            • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                              See? Page 9. Arrays.

                              jsmuellerroemer@c.imJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @foone Iโ€™m pretty sure I had that book

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                              • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                Usborne released a bunch of their old 80s programming books for free a while back, and they're all just a gem:

                                Link Preview Image
                                Computer and coding books from Usborne | Usborne | Be Curious

                                Usborne children's coding books for a new generation

                                favicon

                                (usborne.com)

                                jsmuellerroemer@c.imJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @foone I get redirected to the German site with no option to switch pack (the 404 references a non-existent dropdown menuโ€ฆ)

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                                • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                  Usborne released a bunch of their old 80s programming books for free a while back, and they're all just a gem:

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  Computer and coding books from Usborne | Usborne | Be Curious

                                  Usborne children's coding books for a new generation

                                  favicon

                                  (usborne.com)

                                  weirdocollector@livellosegreto.itW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @foone Unfortunately links goes to 404 ๐Ÿ˜”

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                                  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                    Usborne released a bunch of their old 80s programming books for free a while back, and they're all just a gem:

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    Computer and coding books from Usborne | Usborne | Be Curious

                                    Usborne children's coding books for a new generation

                                    favicon

                                    (usborne.com)

                                    kirtai@tech.lgbtK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @foone
                                    Ooh, they have the text adventure ones

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                                    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                      See? Page 9. Arrays.

                                      billgoats@bitbang.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #43

                                      @foone ๐Ÿ˜

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                                      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                        if someone doesn't have experience with arrays, then they don't have enough experience with programming to hire them to program for you. they are still on page 9 of the programming book

                                        riley@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @foone Pedant point: there have been some rather popular historic languages that eschewed arrays as we know them for "associative arrays", like Mumps, AWK, and PHP.

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                                        • gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.luG gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.lu

                                          @TomF @foone IBM got a patent on some obscure graphics method I used many years before in demo programming around 1990.
                                          I can't recall what it was. Maybe sprites masking with a CPU. Was something obvious

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                                          @gunstick @foone I vaguely recall someone like Atari having a patent on a register that shifts the entire screen left. So someone else (Sega?) made a register that shifts it right instead. It's really annoying that it goes the wrong way, but it avoided the patent.

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