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There’s a limited supply of oil.

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  • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

    There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.

    There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.

    Let’s choose solar.

    sbamueller@freiburg.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    @nickofnz @balkonsolar

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    • niall@mastodon.nzN niall@mastodon.nz

      @nickofnz already did and I highly recommend it.

      Electricity bill $0
      Home heating bill $0 (electric)
      Water heating bill $0 (electric)
      Car fuel bill $0 (electric)

      5* would do it again.

      dandandin@mastodon.unoD This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Niall @nickofnz can you think of the billionaires? How they could continue to hoard wealth destroying the environment if everyone did like you??? Irresponsible

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      • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

        There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.

        There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.

        Let’s choose solar.

        tijgertje1987@mastodon.onlineT This user is from outside of this forum
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        @nickofnz
        Well technically it is not limitless but we are talking about billions of years before that becomes an issue

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        • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

          There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.

          There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.

          Let’s choose solar.

          mwt@mastodon.nzM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @nickofnz Trying my best to choose solar here. Sadly I live on the south side of a tall hill in a house with a whole bunch of trees uphill of me, and even with 500 watts of portable solar panels, it's questionable whether I'll have enough sunlight to fully charge the portable generators all winter. But at least I'm on the solar ladder!

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          • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

            There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.

            There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.

            Let’s choose solar.

            jmjm@mstdn.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            @nickofnz

            TFG spent $1B of our taxes to back out of a wind power deal, and then blew up the oil markets.

            There are crimes that get you put in jail, and then there are crimes so egregious that we don't even have laws against them.

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            • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

              There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.

              There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.

              Let’s choose solar.

              drq@mastodon.mlD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @nickofnz

              > It’s free and no wars are fought for it.

              ... Yet.

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              • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.

                There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.

                Let’s choose solar.

                vgoller@nrw.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                @nickofnz and wind and water

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                • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                  There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.

                  There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.

                  Let’s choose solar.

                  richardazia@indieweb.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @nickofnz Society has used wind, sun, and water power for millenia. I'm glad that the current oil crisis is occuring when the alternative is ready for use. Electric cars, heat pumps, solar, wind, hydro... even clean burning wood pellets...

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                  • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                    There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.

                    There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.

                    Let’s choose solar.

                    ketmorco@fosstodon.orgK This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @nickofnz have you watched Technology Connections vid on solar?

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                    • mwt@mastodon.nzM mwt@mastodon.nz

                      @nickofnz Trying my best to choose solar here. Sadly I live on the south side of a tall hill in a house with a whole bunch of trees uphill of me, and even with 500 watts of portable solar panels, it's questionable whether I'll have enough sunlight to fully charge the portable generators all winter. But at least I'm on the solar ladder!

                      mo@mastodon.mlM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @mwt personal solar is not the only option. Big solar farms can be connected to grid, and power many houses with renewable energy

                      @nickofnz

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                      • ketmorco@fosstodon.orgK ketmorco@fosstodon.org

                        @nickofnz have you watched Technology Connections vid on solar?

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                        @ketmorco @nickofnz Dude. You're going to mention that magnificent video, *and then not link to it!?*

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                        • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                          There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.

                          There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.

                          Let’s choose solar.

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                          @nickofnz BuT thE pAtRiarChy!

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                          • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                            There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.

                            There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.

                            Let’s choose solar.

                            pcxt@piaille.frP This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @nickofnz you can’t buy the sun. You can’t own sun rays. Therefore you can’t sell them.
                            Capitalism will never genuinely go solar

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                            • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                              There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.

                              There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.

                              Let’s choose solar.

                              mo@icelandphotos.co.ukM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @nickofnz
                              When we purchased 15.2kW solar, 19kWh battery and an EV, we hoped to clear the cost against savings some time before we both depart this earth. The way things are going, it'll have paid for itself long before that.
                              Barring accidents, of course, like climbing onto the roof to clean the panels.
                              I jest.

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                              • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                                There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.

                                There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.

                                Let’s choose solar.

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                                @nickofnz
                                I'm unfortunately able to forsee multiple ways to attack a solar grid.

                                The takeaway should be that some people shouldn't have access to political power and taking away the control of oil is taking away that power from them.

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                                • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                                  There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.

                                  There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.

                                  Let’s choose solar.

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                                  @nickofnz I'm all for renewable technologies, however sorry, but I think that this kind of over-simplistic arguments using in the discourse are more harmful than useful.

                                  First, solar is nor unlimited (night, cloudy weather) and has environmental costs like solar panels taking land, etc. Second, solar panels need silicon which is not unlimited, and 80% of it comes from China, so it is easy to imagine how politics and possible wars can also easily disrupt it. So, in a sense, there is a limited supply of solar as well, and wars can also be fought for it.

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                                  • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                                    There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.

                                    There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.

                                    Let’s choose solar.

                                    aho@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @nickofnz one project I fear is those in space solar panels, which in theory could be used to block sun or bath an area with sun so plants will die of lack of rest...

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                                    • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                                      There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.

                                      There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.

                                      Let’s choose solar.

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                                      @nickofnz For those who own the oil wells, oil is free too.

                                      (If you ignore the cost of surfacing oil, but for solar apparently we're ignoring the manufacturing costs too).

                                      Technically the energy in the oil comes from the sun too. Trees used sunlight energy to take CO2 and create carbohydrates, which eventually were pressed and condensed to oil with millions of years of geological pressure.

                                      Oil has a very high energy density, that's what makes it so complicated to replace. And the second problem with fossil ressources is that they are not just used to burn them for energy, but they are in all the plastic and chemicals, in fertilizer and in our houses.

                                      Not saying they shouldn't be replaced, just that it's a bit more complicated than to use the sun.

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                                      • niall@mastodon.nzN niall@mastodon.nz

                                        @nickofnz already did and I highly recommend it.

                                        Electricity bill $0
                                        Home heating bill $0 (electric)
                                        Water heating bill $0 (electric)
                                        Car fuel bill $0 (electric)

                                        5* would do it again.

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                                        @Niall @nickofnz i would be interested to know how you achieved this. As in my experience you need solar panels, (or wind mills), pumps and batteries. Which are rarely free nor free of impact. We should be able to go green with telling the real story.

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                                        • dandandin@mastodon.unoD dandandin@mastodon.uno

                                          @Niall @nickofnz can you think of the billionaires? How they could continue to hoard wealth destroying the environment if everyone did like you??? Irresponsible

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                                          @dandandin @Niall @nickofnz its them that are selling the cars.

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