There’s a limited supply of oil.
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There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.
There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.
Let’s choose solar.
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There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.
There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.
Let’s choose solar.
@nickofnz and wind and water
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There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.
There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.
Let’s choose solar.
@nickofnz Society has used wind, sun, and water power for millenia. I'm glad that the current oil crisis is occuring when the alternative is ready for use. Electric cars, heat pumps, solar, wind, hydro... even clean burning wood pellets...
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There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.
There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.
Let’s choose solar.
@nickofnz have you watched Technology Connections vid on solar?
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@nickofnz Trying my best to choose solar here. Sadly I live on the south side of a tall hill in a house with a whole bunch of trees uphill of me, and even with 500 watts of portable solar panels, it's questionable whether I'll have enough sunlight to fully charge the portable generators all winter. But at least I'm on the solar ladder!
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@nickofnz have you watched Technology Connections vid on solar?
@ketmorco @nickofnz Dude. You're going to mention that magnificent video, *and then not link to it!?*
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There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.
There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.
Let’s choose solar.
@nickofnz BuT thE pAtRiarChy!
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There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.
There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.
Let’s choose solar.
@nickofnz you can’t buy the sun. You can’t own sun rays. Therefore you can’t sell them.
Capitalism will never genuinely go solar -
There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.
There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.
Let’s choose solar.
@nickofnz
When we purchased 15.2kW solar, 19kWh battery and an EV, we hoped to clear the cost against savings some time before we both depart this earth. The way things are going, it'll have paid for itself long before that.
Barring accidents, of course, like climbing onto the roof to clean the panels.
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There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.
There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.
Let’s choose solar.
@nickofnz
I'm unfortunately able to forsee multiple ways to attack a solar grid.The takeaway should be that some people shouldn't have access to political power and taking away the control of oil is taking away that power from them.
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There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.
There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.
Let’s choose solar.
@nickofnz I'm all for renewable technologies, however sorry, but I think that this kind of over-simplistic arguments using in the discourse are more harmful than useful.
First, solar is nor unlimited (night, cloudy weather) and has environmental costs like solar panels taking land, etc. Second, solar panels need silicon which is not unlimited, and 80% of it comes from China, so it is easy to imagine how politics and possible wars can also easily disrupt it. So, in a sense, there is a limited supply of solar as well, and wars can also be fought for it.
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There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.
There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.
Let’s choose solar.
@nickofnz one project I fear is those in space solar panels, which in theory could be used to block sun or bath an area with sun so plants will die of lack of rest...
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There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.
There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.
Let’s choose solar.
@nickofnz For those who own the oil wells, oil is free too.
(If you ignore the cost of surfacing oil, but for solar apparently we're ignoring the manufacturing costs too).
Technically the energy in the oil comes from the sun too. Trees used sunlight energy to take CO2 and create carbohydrates, which eventually were pressed and condensed to oil with millions of years of geological pressure.
Oil has a very high energy density, that's what makes it so complicated to replace. And the second problem with fossil ressources is that they are not just used to burn them for energy, but they are in all the plastic and chemicals, in fertilizer and in our houses.
Not saying they shouldn't be replaced, just that it's a bit more complicated than to use the sun.
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@nickofnz already did and I highly recommend it.
Electricity bill $0
Home heating bill $0 (electric)
Water heating bill $0 (electric)
Car fuel bill $0 (electric)5* would do it again.
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@dandandin @Niall @nickofnz its them that are selling the cars.
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@lindarosesmit @nickofnz there's no such thing as free or free from impact except death. Everything is a trade-off unless you wish to cease to exist.
I put a lot of money and time in to the core of my setup 10 years ago, which is solar, batteries and inverter. Since then I have tweaked and improved things, most notably my batteries. Initially I was using retired ex-telecom lead-acid batteries. Now I am using a reconfigured battery from my Nissan leaf (after I upgraded the car's battery) and an ex forklift battery which I rescued from the scrap yard. -
There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.
There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.
Let’s choose solar.
@nickofnz this sounds really complicated
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There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.
There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.
Let’s choose solar.
Not quite. 85% of the whole PV supply chain is controlled by one country - #China
Not saying PV is wrong on itself, but the current European model of "energy transformation" where all manufacturing was outsourced to a hostile country is just as suicidal as previous outsourcing of fossil fuels to Russia.
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There’s a limited supply of oil. It’s very expensive and wars are fought for it.
There is endless sunlight. It’s free and no wars are fought for it.
Let’s choose solar.
@nickofnz Not just a limited supply, but a limited amount. Dinosaurs have been extinct for millions of years. There are no more to replenish. Once we burn through them, that's it.
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@lindarosesmit @nickofnz there's no such thing as free or free from impact except death. Everything is a trade-off unless you wish to cease to exist.
I put a lot of money and time in to the core of my setup 10 years ago, which is solar, batteries and inverter. Since then I have tweaked and improved things, most notably my batteries. Initially I was using retired ex-telecom lead-acid batteries. Now I am using a reconfigured battery from my Nissan leaf (after I upgraded the car's battery) and an ex forklift battery which I rescued from the scrap yard.@Niall @lindarosesmit @nickofnz end-of-life battery reuse is a very cool project
I had the same idea but I’m glad someone is actually doing it. Good luck!
