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  • ryanhyde@techhub.socialR ryanhyde@techhub.social

    @alisynthesis Oh good, these are Gotoh style tuners. Not sure if they’re Gotohs and that’s just an old logo, but pretty easy to find, cheap, and reliable.

    These will probably fit, but again, research the diameters you’re dealing with first.

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    @RyanHyde woo! I'm pretty regularly wishing for a set of calipers anyway, so I will get myself some and get on the road to locking tuners. Thank you so much!

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    • alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.comA alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.com

      @RyanHyde follow-up question. Is installing new tuners something I can do myself with only rudimentary knowledge and no experience with setting up guitars? Or is that better left to someone who knows wtf they're doing?

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      @alisynthesis @RyanHyde

      They’re easy to replace, it just requires a bit of care with the screws because they’re tiny and strip easily.

      The only tricky part is ensuring you get the right size as there’s a mix of metric and imperial options as guitars are made all over the world. Nail that, and it’s an easy job.

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      • unsafelyhotboots@sharkey.worldU unsafelyhotboots@sharkey.world

        @alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.com also worth adding that @RyanHyde@techhub.social touched on the points I missed - calipers are your friend for getting the correct replacement tuners.

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        @unsafelyhotboots @RyanHyde i'm kind of a tool fanatic and I'm really excited to have an excuse to buy calipers.

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        • ryanhyde@techhub.socialR ryanhyde@techhub.social

          @alisynthesis @unsafelyhotboots Ouch indeed

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          @RyanHyde@techhub.social @alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.com you know, zero regrets. I had a blast building it, and I learned more about how to maintain my instruments by going through the bills process than I would have in ten years of the roadie gig that came after. I would share pics but it's currently packed up in storage.

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          • l0wkey@mastodon.onlineL l0wkey@mastodon.online

            @alisynthesis @RyanHyde

            They’re easy to replace, it just requires a bit of care with the screws because they’re tiny and strip easily.

            The only tricky part is ensuring you get the right size as there’s a mix of metric and imperial options as guitars are made all over the world. Nail that, and it’s an easy job.

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            @L0wKey @RyanHyde good tip. This one is Japanese from the 80s, but I'm not sure if these tuners are original or not.

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            • alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.comA alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.com

              @unsafelyhotboots @RyanHyde i'm kind of a tool fanatic and I'm really excited to have an excuse to buy calipers.

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              @alisynthesis @unsafelyhotboots Haha, honestly that was my same reaction the first time I did this. Now I use those calipers constantly, just to satisfy curiosity

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              • unsafelyhotboots@sharkey.worldU unsafelyhotboots@sharkey.world

                @RyanHyde@techhub.social @alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.com you know, zero regrets. I had a blast building it, and I learned more about how to maintain my instruments by going through the bills process than I would have in ten years of the roadie gig that came after. I would share pics but it's currently packed up in storage.

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                @unsafelyhotboots @RyanHyde that's very cool! Maybe someday I'll build a guitar. I always love visiting people's shops who are working on instruments.

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                • ryanhyde@techhub.socialR ryanhyde@techhub.social

                  @alisynthesis @unsafelyhotboots Haha, honestly that was my same reaction the first time I did this. Now I use those calipers constantly, just to satisfy curiosity

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                  @RyanHyde lol exactly

                  @unsafelyhotboots

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                  • alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.comA alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.com

                    @unsafelyhotboots @RyanHyde that's very cool! Maybe someday I'll build a guitar. I always love visiting people's shops who are working on instruments.

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                    @alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.com @RyanHyde@techhub.social

                    There are a boatload of resources out there now that we're not there when I was in HS doing this. If you have a jig saw, a router, a bunch of good clamps, a high quality sander, and a source of good hardwood, you can get 90% of the way to a finished product then take it to a pro to fret. It goes faster if you have some hand planes as well, but those aren't essential.

                    For me most of the fun was countouring the back of the body and doing the body shaping. Guitar bodies are art, guitar necks are a rote process you follow step by step. And, as evidence by my hydro dipped crazy bass, you don't need to build a guitar to have that kind of fun - you just need an instrument you really want to refinish.

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                    • alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.comA alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.com

                      @unsafelyhotboots @RyanHyde that's very cool! Maybe someday I'll build a guitar. I always love visiting people's shops who are working on instruments.

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                      @alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.com @RyanHyde@techhub.social this is a total aside from your current dilemma, just acknowledging that.

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                      • alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.comA alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.com

                        @L0wKey @RyanHyde good tip. This one is Japanese from the 80s, but I'm not sure if these tuners are original or not.

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                        @alisynthesis @RyanHyde

                        Someone else suggested measure with calipers, I endorse that suggestion. The diameter of the shaft and their shield is the key.

                        The only other thing that springs to mind is that the strings may be sticking in the nut, and then the capo pressure moves them a bit causing them to go out of tune. Clean up the nut and lube with some pencil graphite (literally run a pencil through the gap), this is easier than a tuner change so might be an idea to try first.

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                        • unsafelyhotboots@sharkey.worldU unsafelyhotboots@sharkey.world

                          @alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.com @RyanHyde@techhub.social this is a total aside from your current dilemma, just acknowledging that.

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                          @unsafelyhotboots tangents are always where the fun starts 🤣

                          @RyanHyde

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                          • l0wkey@mastodon.onlineL l0wkey@mastodon.online

                            @alisynthesis @RyanHyde

                            Someone else suggested measure with calipers, I endorse that suggestion. The diameter of the shaft and their shield is the key.

                            The only other thing that springs to mind is that the strings may be sticking in the nut, and then the capo pressure moves them a bit causing them to go out of tune. Clean up the nut and lube with some pencil graphite (literally run a pencil through the gap), this is easier than a tuner change so might be an idea to try first.

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                            @L0wKey okay, but I'm still gonna buy calipers 🤣

                            @RyanHyde

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                            • l0wkey@mastodon.onlineL l0wkey@mastodon.online

                              @alisynthesis @RyanHyde

                              Someone else suggested measure with calipers, I endorse that suggestion. The diameter of the shaft and their shield is the key.

                              The only other thing that springs to mind is that the strings may be sticking in the nut, and then the capo pressure moves them a bit causing them to go out of tune. Clean up the nut and lube with some pencil graphite (literally run a pencil through the gap), this is easier than a tuner change so might be an idea to try first.

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                              @alisynthesis @RyanHyde

                              Last option is the bridge. From the video it looked like a fixed bridge so is unlikely to be the cause, but if it’s a tremolo then this may also be the culprit.

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                              • l0wkey@mastodon.onlineL l0wkey@mastodon.online

                                @alisynthesis @RyanHyde

                                Last option is the bridge. From the video it looked like a fixed bridge so is unlikely to be the cause, but if it’s a tremolo then this may also be the culprit.

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                                @L0wKey yeah, it's fixed, so I doubt that's the issue in this case. Thanks for the tips!

                                @RyanHyde

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                                • alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.comA alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.com

                                  @RyanHyde woo! I'm pretty regularly wishing for a set of calipers anyway, so I will get myself some and get on the road to locking tuners. Thank you so much!

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                                  @alisynthesis @RyanHyde

                                  It’s a matter of taste, but I’m not a fan of locking tuners. The old style fender split post tuners are rock solid, easy to use, and much easier to deal with in a stressful situation like a string change at a gig. Locking tuners overcomplicate a none issue problem (imho).

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                                  • l0wkey@mastodon.onlineL l0wkey@mastodon.online

                                    @alisynthesis @RyanHyde

                                    It’s a matter of taste, but I’m not a fan of locking tuners. The old style fender split post tuners are rock solid, easy to use, and much easier to deal with in a stressful situation like a string change at a gig. Locking tuners overcomplicate a none issue problem (imho).

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                                    @L0wKey oh snap, hot take! I've never actually had locking tuners, so I will look into that to see if they might be for me or not.

                                    @RyanHyde

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                                    • l0wkey@mastodon.onlineL l0wkey@mastodon.online

                                      @alisynthesis @RyanHyde

                                      It’s a matter of taste, but I’m not a fan of locking tuners. The old style fender split post tuners are rock solid, easy to use, and much easier to deal with in a stressful situation like a string change at a gig. Locking tuners overcomplicate a none issue problem (imho).

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                                      @L0wKey @alisynthesis See, I like them because they make strong changes so much faster. No winding needed- pull the string through as tight as you safely can, tighten the nut, tune up, clip the excess, you’re right as rain. Hardly even need to stretch the strings since there’s no slack in the winding to deal with.

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                                      • ryanhyde@techhub.socialR ryanhyde@techhub.social

                                        @L0wKey @alisynthesis See, I like them because they make strong changes so much faster. No winding needed- pull the string through as tight as you safely can, tighten the nut, tune up, clip the excess, you’re right as rain. Hardly even need to stretch the strings since there’s no slack in the winding to deal with.

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                                        @L0wKey @alisynthesis That said, that’s all they’re good for is faster string changing. Once the tension is settled, standard tuners do just as good a job staying in tune. People who think locking tuners help with tuning stability more generally don’t know what they’re talking about.

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                                        • ryanhyde@techhub.socialR ryanhyde@techhub.social

                                          @L0wKey @alisynthesis See, I like them because they make strong changes so much faster. No winding needed- pull the string through as tight as you safely can, tighten the nut, tune up, clip the excess, you’re right as rain. Hardly even need to stretch the strings since there’s no slack in the winding to deal with.

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                                          @RyanHyde @L0wKey i've really only had three guitars in my life that I've played a meaningful amount: My Taylor acoustic that I got when I was 18 and will never part with, a 70s American Strat that was an absolute weapon, and this guitar. I never had any issues like this with the first two, so I am very inexperienced on this front.

                                          I never thought about it this way, but even though I buy keyboard instruments like they're going out of style, I keep a guitar for a long freaking time.

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