Wait what, you can't use a *code* editor when you're under 18 now?

[64bithero@mstdn.games]

@marekfort this doesn’t make any sense. It’s clear the end goal with age verification has nothing to with verifying your age…

[gereon@chaos.social]

@tsturm I think I‘m gonna give Gram a try … https://gram.liten.app

[64bithero@mstdn.games]

@marekfort context should be added here. The TOS explicitly states “you must be 18 or older to use Zed’s AI-enabled features software as a service offering” I assume that means the ask for your age when you add tokens and use AI.

I’ve never used their AI features and I don’t plan on starting to anytime. Glad to know we have alternatives in the Zed space.

[yacodes@mastodon.social]

@marekfort I hope that the kids will obey and refuse to use corporate products, contributing to free software instead.

[2waterguns@mstdn.social]

@jonossaseuraava @marekfort Mommy, where do use after free bugs come from?

[unattributed@gotosocial.social]

@marekfort I recently looked at Zed and immediately dumped it because they prioritized using AI over editing in their documentation:

[casastorta@mastodon.online]

@marekfort Saw this in my mailbox too this morning. One has to wonder, what is in the files!?!?!?

[draygon@furry.engineer]

@marekfort uhhhh very fucked up tbh. I wanna support them because I love the editor (esp compared to vs code) but I hate that corporate garbage

[mrjre@mastodon.social]

@cameo007 @marekfort
Same. Its becoming a bit of a Frankenstein.

[norabell@pleroma.snowebell.cc]

Probably so they can say this without lying through their teeth. They collect all kinds of info, only some of which is actually made public because their page which says the telemetry data they take is down.

[drewtowler@mas.to]

@marekfort Oh wow. I like #Zed and use it every day, however now perhaps I should send a support ticket telling them I'm under 18 and asking them what they're going to do about it. Just for laughs since I haven't been under 18 for approximately 40 years...

[jackemled@furry.engineer]

@marekfort Maybe their jurisdiction considers using LLMs to be gambling, since the usage is so similar. That would explain why people under a certain age can't use it.

[lordcaramac@discordian.social]

@marekfort Well, you could use an editor to write porn games. I wrote porn games as a teenager...

[hearts@pharmacy.puppygirl.icu]

@marekfort why does an open-source non-networked ide have a tos anyways?

[jimmylittle@hachyderm.io]

@techokami @marekfort @Gargron I repeat…

Lawyers ruin everything. 🫠

[mdione@en.osm.town]

@bartvdo @marekfort they say they don't sell your data...

Now, nobody said anything about giving it away for free!

[techokami@woof.tech]

@jimmylittle @marekfort @Gargron take a step back and reassess the question.
*Why* does *A TEXT EDITOR* require a ToS? What is the text editor *DOING* that makes this something that is even needed in the first place?

I looked into it, and apparently it's because this editor is filled to the brim with AI generative bullshit.

Why does such a thing need to exist?

[achadwick@ohai.social]

@gereon @tsturm saw the Gram fork the other day in a different place. I'm not a Zed user, but the Gram author certainly seem to have the right idea on their blog:

https://gram.liten.app/posts/go-slow-and-fix-things/
https://gram.liten.app/posts/why/

[jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@techokami @jimmylittle @marekfort And telemetry. Why does a text editor need telemetry? *Excellent question!*

[ainmosni@social.ainmosni.eu]

@marekfort sigh, I swear, every time I use something that isn't idealistically OSS, it burns me in some way or the other.