There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia
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@verge Well I mean, every means, that's why bittorrent and many alternative exist.
And that's very ethical in such cases.
@webshinra @verge no, actually, putting terf shit in your brain is not ethical
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@ariaflame @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge you're quite surely typing from a device manufactured under work-force exploiting conditions and you're likely to own clothes manufactured through child labor somewhere in Bangladesh.
Not to mention the implications of electronics waste disposal in some poor African countries, spreading cancer through the local population.
Is that ethical for you? Where do you draw the line exactly ? And why is your line more ethical than someone else's?@s1m0n4 @ariaflame @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge
Thanks for your useful contribution to the inaction...
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@dm29 @jaredwhite @verge Wait, you agree that it's unethical? I'm sorry, but if you say "nothing is unethical to consume" people will walk away thinking that you're being literal, not "most things are fine" and I'm trying to figure out exactly where you stand.
@zeblarson @jaredwhite @verge this is about The Verge's piece. If someone does the very worst possible interpretation or makes an overly literal read maybe the issue lies with that reader. Does not matter the comment could be more specific. Not disrespect intended
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"Other bad shit happens. Therefore you can't comment on bad shit happening."
@Moondancer @ariaflame @jaredwhite @verge thank you for missing my point entirely
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There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia
You'd think she could afford to make-up a whole different story to tell.
Or maybe it's a way to retro-cram more JK bad-ideas into work that she now wants to use to directly manipulate malleable minds in-service to the greater fascist and hate machines.Shit, man. I still don't want Star Wars prequels or Road House remake. Not from a quality or nostalgia angle either. Just tell new stories is all. Retro retellings are the laziest kind of work from assholes who can afford to give-up.
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@zeblarson @jaredwhite @verge this is about The Verge's piece. If someone does the very worst possible interpretation or makes an overly literal read maybe the issue lies with that reader. Does not matter the comment could be more specific. Not disrespect intended
@dm29 @jaredwhite @verge well, words matter. But in any event I disagree with even your more narrow premise. Rowling is personally bankrolling transphobic charities and giving her money to do so just enables her to keep doing that, or at the bare minimum signals being fine with that.
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There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia
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@verge Oh yea right, they made a V2 of the Star Wars ripoff with sucky lightsabers.
Comparison: https://www.tiktok.com/@djhuntsofficial/video/7079146252872699182?lang=en
@agowa338 If you think that’s the reason not to watch it, you’re missing the point completely.
(And if you judge culture solely on whether it’s a ”ripoff”, I have some bad news about Star Wars)
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@dm29 @jaredwhite @verge well, words matter. But in any event I disagree with even your more narrow premise. Rowling is personally bankrolling transphobic charities and giving her money to do so just enables her to keep doing that, or at the bare minimum signals being fine with that.
@zeblarson @jaredwhite @verge You should not judge the motives you think someone else might have. Not without asking first, at least. There are many reasons for doing something that you might not have considered. Be careful not to become more intolerant and narrow-minded than those you so lightly evaluate. With all due respect.
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@zeblarson @jaredwhite @verge this is about The Verge's piece. If someone does the very worst possible interpretation or makes an overly literal read maybe the issue lies with that reader. Does not matter the comment could be more specific. Not disrespect intended
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@ariaflame @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge you're quite surely typing from a device manufactured under work-force exploiting conditions and you're likely to own clothes manufactured through child labor somewhere in Bangladesh.
Not to mention the implications of electronics waste disposal in some poor African countries, spreading cancer through the local population.
Is that ethical for you? Where do you draw the line exactly ? And why is your line more ethical than someone else's? -
There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia
YO-HO-FIDDELDY-DEE
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There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia
@verge what about piracy?
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There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia
@verge Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. Harry Potter is a delight and kids can enjoy every minute of them.
JK has views most progressive thinkers don’t agree with but then Charles Dickens abhorred poverty but seemed fine with slavery. Each of us has choices to make. She has to live with herself. We can live without. -
@jaredwhite @verge in my opinion nothing can be unethical to consume. Granted the viewer understands the implications and context of the content.
@dm29 @jaredwhite @verge So, I do understand wanting to move from a binary ethical/unethical view into a more nuanced, want vs. need/burden to abstain and degree/likelihood of harm and how directly a given action leads to said harm, but I don’t agree that simple awareness and acceptance is enough, especially when that harm is a direct result of the action AND it compounds with other harms at the time,
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@dm29 @jaredwhite @verge So, I do understand wanting to move from a binary ethical/unethical view into a more nuanced, want vs. need/burden to abstain and degree/likelihood of harm and how directly a given action leads to said harm, but I don’t agree that simple awareness and acceptance is enough, especially when that harm is a direct result of the action AND it compounds with other harms at the time,
@dm29 @jaredwhite @verge as is the case with Rowling’s revenue from her works getting funneled into anti-trans movements at a time when governmental efforts are also turned toward anti-trans oppression. People must push back any way they can when civil rights are being eroded, and that should involve shaming of others for contributing to that harm.
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There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia
@verge@mastodon.social Show HBO you don't care and watch the originals lol
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There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia
@verge I agree of course, but I would start with more fundamental issues like genocide of thousands of children in Palestine and that there is no ethical consumption of any services that are providing assistance to Israel to murder those civilians (almost entire BigTech etc.)
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@webshinra @verge no, actually, putting terf shit in your brain is not ethical
@t54r4n1 @verge On the second part: putting anything I want in my brain is my choice, the alternative is pretty ugly.
Secondly, Harry Potter as books where not terf shit, and (probably non-volontary) say some encouraging stuff about self détermination.
I won't presume what will be done next, but the horrible person the author have become does not change retrospectively the stuff she wrote before.
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@t54r4n1 @verge On the second part: putting anything I want in my brain is my choice, the alternative is pretty ugly.
Secondly, Harry Potter as books where not terf shit, and (probably non-volontary) say some encouraging stuff about self détermination.
I won't presume what will be done next, but the horrible person the author have become does not change retrospectively the stuff she wrote before.
