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  3. There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia

There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia

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  • moondancer@beige.partyM moondancer@beige.party

    @s1m0n4

    "Other bad shit happens. Therefore you can't comment on bad shit happening."

    @ariaflame @dm29@mastodon.social @jaredwhite @verge

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    @Moondancer @ariaflame @jaredwhite @verge thank you for missing my point entirely

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    • verge@mastodon.socialV verge@mastodon.social

      There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia

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      @verge

      You'd think she could afford to make-up a whole different story to tell.
      Or maybe it's a way to retro-cram more JK bad-ideas into work that she now wants to use to directly manipulate malleable minds in-service to the greater fascist and hate machines.

      Shit, man. I still don't want Star Wars prequels or Road House remake. Not from a quality or nostalgia angle either. Just tell new stories is all. Retro retellings are the laziest kind of work from assholes who can afford to give-up.

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      • D dm29@mastodon.social

        @zeblarson @jaredwhite @verge this is about The Verge's piece. If someone does the very worst possible interpretation or makes an overly literal read maybe the issue lies with that reader. Does not matter the comment could be more specific. Not disrespect intended

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        @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge well, words matter. But in any event I disagree with even your more narrow premise. Rowling is personally bankrolling transphobic charities and giving her money to do so just enables her to keep doing that, or at the bare minimum signals being fine with that.

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        • verge@mastodon.socialV verge@mastodon.social

          There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia

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          @verge @gedeonm it also looks like the worst cosplay ever >_>

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          • agowa338@chaos.socialA agowa338@chaos.social

            @verge Oh yea right, they made a V2 of the Star Wars ripoff with sucky lightsabers.

            Comparison: https://www.tiktok.com/@djhuntsofficial/video/7079146252872699182?lang=en

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            @agowa338 If you think that’s the reason not to watch it, you’re missing the point completely.

            (And if you judge culture solely on whether it’s a ”ripoff”, I have some bad news about Star Wars)

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            • zeblarson@hcommons.socialZ zeblarson@hcommons.social

              @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge well, words matter. But in any event I disagree with even your more narrow premise. Rowling is personally bankrolling transphobic charities and giving her money to do so just enables her to keep doing that, or at the bare minimum signals being fine with that.

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              @zeblarson @jaredwhite @verge You should not judge the motives you think someone else might have. Not without asking first, at least. There are many reasons for doing something that you might not have considered. Be careful not to become more intolerant and narrow-minded than those you so lightly evaluate. With all due respect.

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              • D dm29@mastodon.social

                @zeblarson @jaredwhite @verge this is about The Verge's piece. If someone does the very worst possible interpretation or makes an overly literal read maybe the issue lies with that reader. Does not matter the comment could be more specific. Not disrespect intended

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                @dm29 @zeblarson @jaredwhite @verge

                Hey Winston!

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                • s1m0n4@ohai.socialS s1m0n4@ohai.social

                  @ariaflame @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge you're quite surely typing from a device manufactured under work-force exploiting conditions and you're likely to own clothes manufactured through child labor somewhere in Bangladesh.
                  Not to mention the implications of electronics waste disposal in some poor African countries, spreading cancer through the local population.
                  Is that ethical for you? Where do you draw the line exactly ? And why is your line more ethical than someone else's?

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                  @s1m0n4 @ariaflame @dm29 @jaredwhite
                  https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha/

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                  • verge@mastodon.socialV verge@mastodon.social

                    There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia

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                    YO-HO-FIDDELDY-DEE

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                    • verge@mastodon.socialV verge@mastodon.social

                      There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia

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                      @verge what about piracy?🤔

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                      • verge@mastodon.socialV verge@mastodon.social

                        There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia

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                        @verge Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. Harry Potter is a delight and kids can enjoy every minute of them.
                        JK has views most progressive thinkers don’t agree with but then Charles Dickens abhorred poverty but seemed fine with slavery. Each of us has choices to make. She has to live with herself. We can live without.

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                        • D dm29@mastodon.social

                          @jaredwhite @verge in my opinion nothing can be unethical to consume. Granted the viewer understands the implications and context of the content.

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                          @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge So, I do understand wanting to move from a binary ethical/unethical view into a more nuanced, want vs. need/burden to abstain and degree/likelihood of harm and how directly a given action leads to said harm, but I don’t agree that simple awareness and acceptance is enough, especially when that harm is a direct result of the action AND it compounds with other harms at the time,

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                          • whitecattamer@mastodon.onlineW whitecattamer@mastodon.online

                            @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge So, I do understand wanting to move from a binary ethical/unethical view into a more nuanced, want vs. need/burden to abstain and degree/likelihood of harm and how directly a given action leads to said harm, but I don’t agree that simple awareness and acceptance is enough, especially when that harm is a direct result of the action AND it compounds with other harms at the time,

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                            @dm29 @jaredwhite @verge as is the case with Rowling’s revenue from her works getting funneled into anti-trans movements at a time when governmental efforts are also turned toward anti-trans oppression. People must push back any way they can when civil rights are being eroded, and that should involve shaming of others for contributing to that harm.

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                            • verge@mastodon.socialV verge@mastodon.social

                              There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia

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                              @verge@mastodon.social Show HBO you don't care and watch the originals lol

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                              • verge@mastodon.socialV verge@mastodon.social

                                There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia

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                                @verge I agree of course, but I would start with more fundamental issues like genocide of thousands of children in Palestine and that there is no ethical consumption of any services that are providing assistance to Israel to murder those civilians (almost entire BigTech etc.)

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                                • t54r4n1@mspsocial.netT t54r4n1@mspsocial.net

                                  @webshinra @verge no, actually, putting terf shit in your brain is not ethical

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                                  @t54r4n1 @verge On the second part: putting anything I want in my brain is my choice, the alternative is pretty ugly.

                                  Secondly, Harry Potter as books where not terf shit, and (probably non-volontary) say some encouraging stuff about self détermination.

                                  I won't presume what will be done next, but the horrible person the author have become does not change retrospectively the stuff she wrote before.

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                                  • webshinra@pouet.chapril.orgW webshinra@pouet.chapril.org

                                    @t54r4n1 @verge On the second part: putting anything I want in my brain is my choice, the alternative is pretty ugly.

                                    Secondly, Harry Potter as books where not terf shit, and (probably non-volontary) say some encouraging stuff about self détermination.

                                    I won't presume what will be done next, but the horrible person the author have become does not change retrospectively the stuff she wrote before.

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                                    @t54r4n1 @verge (to be clear, I'm not interested, as I read HP with pleasure like in 2004, and have grown away from it since.)

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                                    • verge@mastodon.socialV verge@mastodon.social

                                      There is no ethical consumption of HBO’s Harry Potter series https://www.theverge.com/report/901818/hbo-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transphobia

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                                      @verge @BenGleason thank you for being clear about this

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                                      • webshinra@pouet.chapril.orgW webshinra@pouet.chapril.org

                                        @t54r4n1 @verge (to be clear, I'm not interested, as I read HP with pleasure like in 2004, and have grown away from it since.)

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                                        @webshinra try reading it again and seeing if you notice the antisemitism this time. or Dobby, the happy slave

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                                        • t54r4n1@mspsocial.netT t54r4n1@mspsocial.net

                                          @webshinra try reading it again and seeing if you notice the antisemitism this time. or Dobby, the happy slave

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                                          @t54r4n1 I did that, and saw that (the antisemitism is arguable, the happy slave not) and many other stuff, thanks. I would not recommand my nephew to read those, and for reason far worse in my eyes than those two points.

                                          So please, don't tell my what media is ethical to watch, which is a very different point than contributing to their economy/popularity.

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