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@paco @BenAveling it is just a stupid electronic device

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  • flicka@ohai.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
    flicka@ohai.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
    flicka@ohai.social
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    #243

    @paco

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    • bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.frB This user is from outside of this forum
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      bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
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      #244

      @paco What will be its difference with .lgbt?

      alyve@social.alyve.beA thibaultmol@en.osm.townT ohne_sonne@potate.spaceO 3 Replies Last reply
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      • bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.frB bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr

        @paco What will be its difference with .lgbt?

        alyve@social.alyve.beA This user is from outside of this forum
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        alyve@social.alyve.be
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        #245

        @bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr They are not lucrative and they will give 100% of their benefice to associations.

        When .lgbt & .gay only give 20% and are lucrative 🙂
        (Furthermore, .gay is only for… gays and .lgbt might be "not less")

        @paco@infosec.exchange

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        • bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.frB bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr

          @paco What will be its difference with .lgbt?

          thibaultmol@en.osm.townT This user is from outside of this forum
          thibaultmol@en.osm.townT This user is from outside of this forum
          thibaultmol@en.osm.town
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          #246

          @bortzmeyer @paco actually explained on their site:

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          • godofbiscuits@sfba.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
            godofbiscuits@sfba.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
            godofbiscuits@sfba.social
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            #247

            @paco calling it that feels like an apology. Or the closet: “Sorry that “queer” might be off putting to you normies…we’ll just meow.”

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            • godofbiscuits@sfba.socialG godofbiscuits@sfba.social

              @paco calling it that feels like an apology. Or the closet: “Sorry that “queer” might be off putting to you normies…we’ll just meow.”

              paco@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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              paco@infosec.exchange
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              #248

              @godofbiscuits I’m not really qualified to say what is queer enough to be considered supportive of queer folks. I just do what I think might help. I’m not associated with the project, though I backed it and I enthusiastically hope it succeeds.

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              • bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.frB bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr

                @paco What will be its difference with .lgbt?

                ohne_sonne@potate.spaceO This user is from outside of this forum
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                ohne_sonne@potate.space
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                #249

                @bortzmeyer @paco .lgbt is for-profit, and only offer a cool tld (in exchange of money). The .meow is non-profit. Whatever money they get must go to the community (legally binding) + you get a very cool tld 😊

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                • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                  @godofbiscuits I’m not really qualified to say what is queer enough to be considered supportive of queer folks. I just do what I think might help. I’m not associated with the project, though I backed it and I enthusiastically hope it succeeds.

                  godofbiscuits@sfba.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  godofbiscuits@sfba.social
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                  #250

                  @paco i dont have any real animosity towards it, and i think they'll do good stuff. I'm frustrated when LGBTQ people apologize for existing.

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                  • godofbiscuits@sfba.socialG godofbiscuits@sfba.social

                    @paco i dont have any real animosity towards it, and i think they'll do good stuff. I'm frustrated when LGBTQ people apologize for existing.

                    paco@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    paco@infosec.exchange
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                    #251

                    @godofbiscuits Maybe I am more of the target audience.

                    I’m not gay, I just want to be supportive. I don’t have a use for a .gay domain, because it is too specific. I don’t do anything where “gay” is the theme or the content, and it isn’t part of my identity.

                    So I can buy a funny domain .meow, do something playful that suits my needs, and I’ll be supporting lgbtq+ causes while I’m at it. I guess that’s probably why I’m enthusiastic.

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                    • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk
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                      #252

                      @paco what little respect i had for the folks behind signal just evaporated.

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                      • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                        @paco what little respect i had for the folks behind signal just evaporated.

                        david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        david_chisnall@infosec.exchange
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                        #253

                        @fishidwardrobe @paco

                        Marlinspike was kicked out of Signal after he pushed a cryptocurrency nonsense thing (in which he was an investor) into the app.

                        He's been trying to make money from the latest nonsense fad for a while. I'm only surprised his name wasn't on some Metaverse thing.

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                        • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                          @paco what little respect i had for the folks behind signal just evaporated.

                          dymaxion@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          dymaxion@infosec.exchange
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                          #254

                          @fishidwardrobe
                          To be fair, Moxie hasn't been i that nvolved with signal for a long time
                          @paco

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                          • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                            @fishidwardrobe @paco

                            Marlinspike was kicked out of Signal after he pushed a cryptocurrency nonsense thing (in which he was an investor) into the app.

                            He's been trying to make money from the latest nonsense fad for a while. I'm only surprised his name wasn't on some Metaverse thing.

                            fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
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                            fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk
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                            #255

                            @david_chisnall @paco thanks for the update, i stand corrected

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                            • fabio@zirk.usF This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #256

                              @paco It's also only private for his customers. It does nothing to stop the LLMs from stealing private data. It's just a more private way to invade others' privacy.

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                              • fabio@zirk.usF fabio@zirk.us

                                @paco It's also only private for his customers. It does nothing to stop the LLMs from stealing private data. It's just a more private way to invade others' privacy.

                                paco@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                paco@infosec.exchange
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                                #257

                                @fabio I don't follow. Nobody can fix privacy for stuff they don't own. So whatever we think of this privacy-preserving LLM service, of course it doesn't change the privacy invasions of the other LLMs in the market.

                                "Confer" would tell you that this is the reason people should use them and not the other big AI players.

                                My whole point is that the tech is badly broken and using broken tech privately is not a winning proposition.

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                                • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                                  @godofbiscuits Maybe I am more of the target audience.

                                  I’m not gay, I just want to be supportive. I don’t have a use for a .gay domain, because it is too specific. I don’t do anything where “gay” is the theme or the content, and it isn’t part of my identity.

                                  So I can buy a funny domain .meow, do something playful that suits my needs, and I’ll be supporting lgbtq+ causes while I’m at it. I guess that’s probably why I’m enthusiastic.

                                  godofbiscuits@sfba.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  godofbiscuits@sfba.social
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                                  #258

                                  @paco I think you made my point FOR me.

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                                  • godofbiscuits@sfba.socialG godofbiscuits@sfba.social

                                    @paco I think you made my point FOR me.

                                    paco@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    paco@infosec.exchange
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                                    #259

                                    @godofbiscuits Great. So at least we're on the same wavelength.

                                    I don't want to provoke irritation in (or support a project that irritates) the very people I want to support. Perhaps what you're saying is that this is going to have low appeal to people who themselves are part of the LGBTQ community? I can understand that.

                                    But is it bad? Is there a reason that well-intentioned folks like me should oppose it instead of support it? Is it more offensive than beneficial? I'm genuinely asking.

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                                    • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                                      @fabio I don't follow. Nobody can fix privacy for stuff they don't own. So whatever we think of this privacy-preserving LLM service, of course it doesn't change the privacy invasions of the other LLMs in the market.

                                      "Confer" would tell you that this is the reason people should use them and not the other big AI players.

                                      My whole point is that the tech is badly broken and using broken tech privately is not a winning proposition.

                                      fabio@zirk.usF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      fabio@zirk.us
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                                      #260

                                      @paco I'm saying it would only be a "privacy-preserving LLM service" if all LLM models it gives access to were trained without infringing on anyones privacy. Helping people to privately infringe on others privacy is not preserving privacy.

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                                      • dymaxion@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        dymaxion@infosec.exchange
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                                        #261

                                        @tiotasram
                                        So the point of SGX is that there's an intel-signed key that's only accessible inside the SGX enclave than can be used to sign messages to a recipient off-device to attest that the code is running inside the enclave; it can be validated against intel's CA. The idea is good in theory, but in practice there have been too many SGX vulnerabilities for me to want to rely on it, hence my comment.
                                        @paco

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                                        • jsalvador@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          jsalvador@mastodon.social
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #262

                                          @paco I'm about to get mine too, and thinking about buying two

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