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@Scrimshaw9 @ShredderFeeder I think what you miss in animal farm, presuming you've read it, is that the pigs are also the animals that interface with the human world and their behavior becomes ever more like that of the farmer who they revolted against in the first place. Are they inherently corrupt or is their sway towards capitalism the corrupting force?
I feel Orwell was a better writer than most of the people who quote him.
@obscurestar @ShredderFeeder No. I didn't miss that but if you need it, I think you are very very smart. Just like your mother always told you.
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@ShredderFeeder Christians, yes.
Muslim paradise is quite different and misogynistic, separate heavens for men, married women and maidens.
Valhalla is even worse.
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@ShredderFeeder @wvi Perhaps because there would be unlimited resources in heaven.
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@ShredderFeeder No, there is absolutely no irony: religion (at least those with eschatological ontology) needs the metaphysical, the beyond, the possibility of "immanentizing the Eschaton" scares the shit out of them because it destroys despair in this world and the need for submission to their rules and sacrifice in this life for those rewards in the life beyond.
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@ShredderFeeder No, there is absolutely no irony: religion (at least those with eschatological ontology) needs the metaphysical, the beyond, the possibility of "immanentizing the Eschaton" scares the shit out of them because it destroys despair in this world and the need for submission to their rules and sacrifice in this life for those rewards in the life beyond.
@Illuminatus @ShredderFeeder always found it telling of who they really are that their worldview forbids trying to bring about the conditions of heaven lol
