Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.
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@dalias
That's new to me. Thank you!@dexternemrod A lot of folks don't understand how reporting works on fedi. When you report a post/account, you're reporting it to the moderation staff for *your own instance*, regardless of where the account you're reporting lives. Your mods can then block the account from appearing to anyone on your instance, limit it so it only shows up to ppl looking for it (kinda like a shadowban), or just keep track of the report for making future moderation decisions about the user or the instance they came from.
You can also choose to forward the report (anonymized to protect you from retaliation if the remote admins are aligned with the abuse, but even then they can sometimes guess) to the reported account's instance and/or the instances of anyone else included in the post's @'s. This might get them banned from their own instance if the instance owner doesn't approve of what they're doing, and it might help other instances block them if their instance doesn't act.
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Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.
Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)
@janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.
Alpaca.Gold (alpaca.gold)
(Quote replaced with link since I was blocked.)
@dalias To be clear - what he says there is actually incorrect. The bot logs in as whoever is using it, so you'd have to somehow know who *every* current and future user of the bot is, and block *all* of them.
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Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.
Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)
@janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.
Alpaca.Gold (alpaca.gold)
(Quote replaced with link since I was blocked.)
Since the host name is the name of the app, maybe an instance block of alpaca.gold is better rather than a user block
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RE: https://hachyderm.io/@dalias/116290410049114192
@MHowell @dexternemrod There is no technical measure to prevent folks who can read what you write from being able to copy it. This is fundamental to how DRM is so ridiculous.
This is not about technical measures but delivering consequences for antisocial behaviors.
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RE: https://hachyderm.io/@dalias/116290410049114192
@MHowell @dexternemrod There is no technical measure to prevent folks who can read what you write from being able to copy it. This is fundamental to how DRM is so ridiculous.
This is not about technical measures but delivering consequences for antisocial behaviors.
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@dalias this person really does not understand what consent is, does he?
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tedious bastards who want to use social media to socialize with each other instead of minmaxing the Engagement
CC: @dalias@hachyderm.io
exactly this. Everything about being human, filed under "tedium," and the only thing we can consider "not tedium" is Number Go Up. -
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@dalias@hachyderm.io that sounds like "blocking" here means not appearing on someone else's feed
The Mastodon API is publicly available and blocking the author of the app or the instance won't do anything -
@dalias@hachyderm.io that sounds like "blocking" here means not appearing on someone else's feed
The Mastodon API is publicly available and blocking the author of the app or the instance won't do anythingRE: https://hachyderm.io/@dalias/116289558240910154
@natty In the case of this app, it scrapes from its user's feed, so if you block its user, you will not be in the feed it scrapes.
These techbros want us to believe their "it's silly to have norms if the machine can't enforce them" bullshit. Here, whatever blocking we can do is a statement of our disapproval of their attempts to bypass our consent and reduce the damage, not a surrender of our standing to demand they stop doing things that technical measures fundamentally can't stop.
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RE: https://hachyderm.io/@dalias/116289558240910154
@natty In the case of this app, it scrapes from its user's feed, so if you block its user, you will not be in the feed it scrapes.
These techbros want us to believe their "it's silly to have norms if the machine can't enforce them" bullshit. Here, whatever blocking we can do is a statement of our disapproval of their attempts to bypass our consent and reduce the damage, not a surrender of our standing to demand they stop doing things that technical measures fundamentally can't stop.
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RE: https://hachyderm.io/@dalias/116289558240910154
@natty In the case of this app, it scrapes from its user's feed, so if you block its user, you will not be in the feed it scrapes.
These techbros want us to believe their "it's silly to have norms if the machine can't enforce them" bullshit. Here, whatever blocking we can do is a statement of our disapproval of their attempts to bypass our consent and reduce the damage, not a surrender of our standing to demand they stop doing things that technical measures fundamentally can't stop.
@dalias@hachyderm.io I said what now?
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@SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt @dalias@hachyderm.io we have a flag for this https://docs.joinmastodon.org/spec/activitypub/#indexable but consent is not real I guess
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@SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt @dalias@hachyderm.io we have a flag for this https://docs.joinmastodon.org/spec/activitypub/#indexable but consent is not real I guess
@natty @SRAZKVT No, we do not have a flag for this. "Indexable" means I want people to be able to find my toots in search results. Not that I want to allow corporations to ingest them into their slop regurgitation machines and mimic my writing style but saying things I didn't and would never say and present those things as "summaries" of what I said.
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@dalias@hachyderm.io I said what now?
@natty Sorry maybe I misread what you were saying about "blocking won't do anything". I'll edit not to sound accusatory.
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@SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt @dalias@hachyderm.io we have a flag for this https://docs.joinmastodon.org/spec/activitypub/#indexable but consent is not real I guess
@SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt @natty@astolfo.social @dalias@hachyderm.io
fedi has contracted from early openedness. last few masto versions have new privacy controls. them follows with blank profiles and zero followers? yeah those are the dumb ones.
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@lawyersgunsnmoney AFAICT he made a bot you hand your social media credentials over to and it logs in to all your accounts, scrapes everything, and passes it to an LLM service to "summarize" (and keep for training). Utter clownery. Normally I would just block, but I'm screenshotting and sharing this because it's a privacy threat to everyone.
@dalias @lawyersgunsnmoney any reason not to block the entirety of alpaca dot gold? without me having to go to check -
@dalias @lawyersgunsnmoney any reason not to block the entirety of alpaca dot gold? without me having to go to check
@wyatt @lawyersgunsnmoney Not really. It's an instance with a single-digit number of users who are in his circle of friends. Your call if you think they deserve to be cut off from lots of fedi by association.
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@wyatt @lawyersgunsnmoney Not really. It's an instance with a single-digit number of users who are in his circle of friends. Your call if you think they deserve to be cut off from lots of fedi by association.
@dalias @lawyersgunsnmoney there are three users on my instance, two of which are active, and one of that subset is me and the other is much more block-happy than I am -
RE: https://hachyderm.io/@dalias/116290410049114192
@MHowell @dexternemrod There is no technical measure to prevent folks who can read what you write from being able to copy it. This is fundamental to how DRM is so ridiculous.
This is not about technical measures but delivering consequences for antisocial behaviors.
