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Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

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  • paul@notnull.spaceP paul@notnull.space

    @dalias thanks
    Looks like they are going to implement respecting the #noindex tag in profiles but I've blocked anyway as this is just terrible

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    @paul That's the thing. I don't want noindex. I'm happy with *indexing* to help ppl find things they saw and want to revisit. What is not cool is preparing derivatives of things I said in order to misrepresent and impersonate. Which is what the slop companies will do with it.

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    • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

      Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

      Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

      @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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      @dalias thank you, I'll just defederate alpaca.gold in case @seldo@alpaca.gold decides to scrape from other accounts there 👏

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      • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

        Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

        Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

        @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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        (Quote replaced with link since I was blocked.)

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        @dalias seems like a good candidate for #fediblock  just like we did to meta.

        adding this alpaca guy now to defederatelist.

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          @gunchleoc @YvanDaSilva @dalias That is great, thank you!

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          • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

            @paul That's the thing. I don't want noindex. I'm happy with *indexing* to help ppl find things they saw and want to revisit. What is not cool is preparing derivatives of things I said in order to misrepresent and impersonate. Which is what the slop companies will do with it.

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            @dalias yep, absolutely true.

            I've seen someone else has blocked the instance IP address. I will be doing the same! (benefits of running your own fedi-server!)

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              hashbangperl@hachyderm.io
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              @atax1a @dalias same old same old

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              • yvandasilva@hachyderm.ioY This user is from outside of this forum
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                @HollieK72 @kendricklmao8 @dalias
                If you want to block another domain, there is also alpaca.blue

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                • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                  Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

                  Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

                  @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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                  (Quote replaced with link since I was blocked.)

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                  hashbangperl@hachyderm.io
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                  @dalias I guess by work he means "make me money from others creativity"

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                    @xri @dalias
                    Random guess:
                    To sell to others 🤷

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                    • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                      Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

                      Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

                      @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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                      Alpaca.Gold (alpaca.gold)

                      (Quote replaced with link since I was blocked.)

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                      @dalias
                      @dalias
                      Because of this insult:
                      https://alpaca.gold/@seldo/116286295716964968 I wanted to report the account. Turns out, the person is the admin of the server. So I blocked alpaca.gold for my account.

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                      • yvandasilva@hachyderm.ioY yvandasilva@hachyderm.io

                        @xri @dalias
                        Random guess:
                        To sell to others 🤷

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                        @YvanDaSilva @xri Kinda, but I think the point is kinda to be able to dismiss people's opinions as whatever the slop-extruder claims is the "summary" of them, but pretend you considered them.

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                        • dexternemrod@troet.cafeD dexternemrod@troet.cafe

                          @dalias
                          @dalias
                          Because of this insult:
                          https://alpaca.gold/@seldo/116286295716964968 I wanted to report the account. Turns out, the person is the admin of the server. So I blocked alpaca.gold for my account.

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                          @dexternemrod You can still report, just not forward the report to him. Then your admins can act on it and block the instance for everyone.

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                          • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                            @YvanDaSilva @xri Kinda, but I think the point is kinda to be able to dismiss people's opinions as whatever the slop-extruder claims is the "summary" of them, but pretend you considered them.

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                            @YvanDaSilva @xri Like, if you have techbro brain and someone in your replies says something insightful in a way you haven't heard before, it has a chance of breaking thru and making you reconsider things.

                            But if you get it "summarized" by replacing it with a blend of the closest commonly-repeated stuff from your corpus, you're gonna interpret it as "oh yeah, just more of the same complaints I've already dismissed".

                            It's basically "turning your audience into yes-men as a service", which sounds like his peers would love it.

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                            • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                              @YvanDaSilva @xri Like, if you have techbro brain and someone in your replies says something insightful in a way you haven't heard before, it has a chance of breaking thru and making you reconsider things.

                              But if you get it "summarized" by replacing it with a blend of the closest commonly-repeated stuff from your corpus, you're gonna interpret it as "oh yeah, just more of the same complaints I've already dismissed".

                              It's basically "turning your audience into yes-men as a service", which sounds like his peers would love it.

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                              yvandasilva@hachyderm.io
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                              @dalias @xri 100%

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                              • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

                                Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

                                @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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                                (Quote replaced with link since I was blocked.)

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                                @dalias They want to be blocked? Happy to oblige!

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                                • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                  Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

                                  Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

                                  @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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                                  Alpaca.Gold (alpaca.gold)

                                  (Quote replaced with link since I was blocked.)

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                                  @dalias I recommend a #FediBlock of all this slimeball's accounts and his alpaca.gold instance. He's got accounts on Bluesky and Threads, as well, so make sure you add those.

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                                  • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                    @dexternemrod You can still report, just not forward the report to him. Then your admins can act on it and block the instance for everyone.

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                                    @dalias @dexternemrod i blocked the entire domain

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                                    • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                      Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

                                      Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

                                      @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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                                      (Quote replaced with link since I was blocked.)

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                                      @dalias vielleicht auch was für @ordnung

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                                      • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                        @dexternemrod You can still report, just not forward the report to him. Then your admins can act on it and block the instance for everyone.

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                                        dexternemrod@troet.cafe
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                                        @dalias
                                        That's new to me. Thank you!

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                                        • dexternemrod@troet.cafeD dexternemrod@troet.cafe

                                          @dalias
                                          That's new to me. Thank you!

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                                          dalias@hachyderm.io
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                                          @dexternemrod A lot of folks don't understand how reporting works on fedi. When you report a post/account, you're reporting it to the moderation staff for *your own instance*, regardless of where the account you're reporting lives. Your mods can then block the account from appearing to anyone on your instance, limit it so it only shows up to ppl looking for it (kinda like a shadowban), or just keep track of the report for making future moderation decisions about the user or the instance they came from.

                                          You can also choose to forward the report (anonymized to protect you from retaliation if the remote admins are aligned with the abuse, but even then they can sometimes guess) to the reported account's instance and/or the instances of anyone else included in the post's @'s. This might get them banned from their own instance if the instance owner doesn't approve of what they're doing, and it might help other instances block them if their instance doesn't act.

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