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Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

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  • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

    Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

    Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

    @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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    Alpaca.Gold (alpaca.gold)

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    @dalias@hachyderm.io

    Blocking the author won't help because it's based on who is using the client. Author said they'd add noindex support, so you can add that flag and your posts should no longer show up.

    If your instance doesn't support that, there's also #nobots. Disclaimer: I have not checked the code to see if this has been added yet


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    • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

      Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

      Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

      @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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      Alpaca.Gold (alpaca.gold)

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      sortius@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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      sortius@infosec.exchange
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      @dalias maybe fediblock the instance, too. It's his instance, after all, so any scrapers are running through it

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      • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

        Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

        Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

        @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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        Alpaca.Gold (alpaca.gold)

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        slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        @dalias Blocked & reported

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        • kendricklmao8@hachyderm.ioK This user is from outside of this forum
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          @HollieK72 @dalias winner winner chicken dinner!

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          • dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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            @notyourfanboy "Welcome to the real world, where anyone can rob your house by smashing your windows and climbing inside."

            Do you see how deranged that sounds?

            We expect people not to do this because it's antisocial, illegal, and wrong. Not because there's some technical measure (which of course is impossible) preventing it.

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            • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

              Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

              Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

              @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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              Alpaca.Gold (alpaca.gold)

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              dzsr@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @dalias
              Thanks for the warning!

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              • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

                Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

                @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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                Alpaca.Gold (alpaca.gold)

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                paul@notnull.spaceP This user is from outside of this forum
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                @dalias thanks
                Looks like they are going to implement respecting the #noindex tag in profiles but I've blocked anyway as this is just terrible

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                • paul@notnull.spaceP paul@notnull.space

                  @dalias thanks
                  Looks like they are going to implement respecting the #noindex tag in profiles but I've blocked anyway as this is just terrible

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                  @paul That's the thing. I don't want noindex. I'm happy with *indexing* to help ppl find things they saw and want to revisit. What is not cool is preparing derivatives of things I said in order to misrepresent and impersonate. Which is what the slop companies will do with it.

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                  • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                    Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

                    Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

                    @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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                    Alpaca.Gold (alpaca.gold)

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                    @dalias thank you, I'll just defederate alpaca.gold in case @seldo@alpaca.gold decides to scrape from other accounts there 👏

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                    • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                      Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

                      Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

                      @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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                      Alpaca.Gold (alpaca.gold)

                      (Quote replaced with link since I was blocked.)

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                      #44

                      @dalias seems like a good candidate for #fediblock  just like we did to meta.

                      adding this alpaca guy now to defederatelist.

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                        @gunchleoc @YvanDaSilva @dalias That is great, thank you!

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                        • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                          @paul That's the thing. I don't want noindex. I'm happy with *indexing* to help ppl find things they saw and want to revisit. What is not cool is preparing derivatives of things I said in order to misrepresent and impersonate. Which is what the slop companies will do with it.

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                          @dalias yep, absolutely true.

                          I've seen someone else has blocked the instance IP address. I will be doing the same! (benefits of running your own fedi-server!)

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                            hashbangperl@hachyderm.io
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                            @atax1a @dalias same old same old

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                              @HollieK72 @kendricklmao8 @dalias
                              If you want to block another domain, there is also alpaca.blue

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                              • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

                                Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

                                @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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                                Alpaca.Gold (alpaca.gold)

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                                hashbangperl@hachyderm.io
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                                @dalias I guess by work he means "make me money from others creativity"

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                                  @xri @dalias
                                  Random guess:
                                  To sell to others 🤷

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                                  • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                    Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

                                    Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

                                    @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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                                    @dalias
                                    @dalias
                                    Because of this insult:
                                    https://alpaca.gold/@seldo/116286295716964968 I wanted to report the account. Turns out, the person is the admin of the server. So I blocked alpaca.gold for my account.

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                                    • yvandasilva@hachyderm.ioY yvandasilva@hachyderm.io

                                      @xri @dalias
                                      Random guess:
                                      To sell to others 🤷

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                                      @YvanDaSilva @xri Kinda, but I think the point is kinda to be able to dismiss people's opinions as whatever the slop-extruder claims is the "summary" of them, but pretend you considered them.

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                                      • dexternemrod@troet.cafeD dexternemrod@troet.cafe

                                        @dalias
                                        @dalias
                                        Because of this insult:
                                        https://alpaca.gold/@seldo/116286295716964968 I wanted to report the account. Turns out, the person is the admin of the server. So I blocked alpaca.gold for my account.

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                                        @dexternemrod You can still report, just not forward the report to him. Then your admins can act on it and block the instance for everyone.

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                                        • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                          @YvanDaSilva @xri Kinda, but I think the point is kinda to be able to dismiss people's opinions as whatever the slop-extruder claims is the "summary" of them, but pretend you considered them.

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                                          @YvanDaSilva @xri Like, if you have techbro brain and someone in your replies says something insightful in a way you haven't heard before, it has a chance of breaking thru and making you reconsider things.

                                          But if you get it "summarized" by replacing it with a blend of the closest commonly-repeated stuff from your corpus, you're gonna interpret it as "oh yeah, just more of the same complaints I've already dismissed".

                                          It's basically "turning your audience into yes-men as a service", which sounds like his peers would love it.

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