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Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

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  • paraw@mathstodon.xyzP paraw@mathstodon.xyz

    @dalias thanks, but how do we also block anyone who uses their client? I mean, how do we figure out if one does?

    rightsprung@c.imR This user is from outside of this forum
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    @paraw @dalias

    This is a great point.

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    • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

      Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

      Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

      @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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      sissi@sunbeam.cityS This user is from outside of this forum
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      sissi@sunbeam.city
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      @dalias

      "And anyone who uses the app" these dudes will never understand consensual opt-in

      Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

      @janl@narrativ.es Me personally, and also anyone who uses the app. It's just a mastodon client, fetching the timeline. It looks like every other mastodon client.

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      • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

        Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

        Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

        @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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        lykrast@eldritch.cafeL This user is from outside of this forum
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        @dalias I'm like "well then I'm blocking them" and then when I'm about to I see "account suspended by moderators" thank you local admin

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        • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

          Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

          Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

          @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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          Alpaca.Gold (alpaca.gold)

          (Quote replaced with link since I was blocked.)

          robchapman@ohai.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          robchapman@ohai.social
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          @dalias Thanks for the info - personal server block activated

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          • kendricklmao8@hachyderm.ioK This user is from outside of this forum
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            @HollieK72 @dalias it is the 3 dots at the top, near his profile photo and header. Just done it myself

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            • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

              Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

              Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

              @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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              Alpaca.Gold (alpaca.gold)

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              realsiegfried@troet.cafeR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #34

              @dalias Is that the end of "safe space Mastodon"?
              And does blocking really help?

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              • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

                Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

                @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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                Alpaca.Gold (alpaca.gold)

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                @dalias@hachyderm.io

                Blocking the author won't help because it's based on who is using the client. Author said they'd add noindex support, so you can add that flag and your posts should no longer show up.

                If your instance doesn't support that, there's also #nobots. Disclaimer: I have not checked the code to see if this has been added yet


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                • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                  Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

                  Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

                  @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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                  sortius@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @dalias maybe fediblock the instance, too. It's his instance, after all, so any scrapers are running through it

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                  • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                    Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

                    Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

                    @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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                    slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @dalias Blocked & reported

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                    • kendricklmao8@hachyderm.ioK This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @HollieK72 @dalias winner winner chicken dinner!

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                      • dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @notyourfanboy "Welcome to the real world, where anyone can rob your house by smashing your windows and climbing inside."

                        Do you see how deranged that sounds?

                        We expect people not to do this because it's antisocial, illegal, and wrong. Not because there's some technical measure (which of course is impossible) preventing it.

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                        • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                          Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

                          Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

                          @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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                          @dalias
                          Thanks for the warning!

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                          • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                            Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

                            Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

                            @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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                            paul@notnull.spaceP This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @dalias thanks
                            Looks like they are going to implement respecting the #noindex tag in profiles but I've blocked anyway as this is just terrible

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                            • paul@notnull.spaceP paul@notnull.space

                              @dalias thanks
                              Looks like they are going to implement respecting the #noindex tag in profiles but I've blocked anyway as this is just terrible

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                              @paul That's the thing. I don't want noindex. I'm happy with *indexing* to help ppl find things they saw and want to revisit. What is not cool is preparing derivatives of things I said in order to misrepresent and impersonate. Which is what the slop companies will do with it.

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                              • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

                                Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

                                @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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                                @dalias thank you, I'll just defederate alpaca.gold in case @seldo@alpaca.gold decides to scrape from other accounts there 👏

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                                • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                  Heads-up for anyone who doesn't want their posts scraped and handed over to an LLM.

                                  Laurie Voss (@seldo@alpaca.gold)

                                  @janl@narrativ.es You would need to block me from following you, I suppose.

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                                  tootbrute@fedi.arkadi.one
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                                  @dalias seems like a good candidate for #fediblock  just like we did to meta.

                                  adding this alpaca guy now to defederatelist.

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                                    @gunchleoc @YvanDaSilva @dalias That is great, thank you!

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                                    • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                      @paul That's the thing. I don't want noindex. I'm happy with *indexing* to help ppl find things they saw and want to revisit. What is not cool is preparing derivatives of things I said in order to misrepresent and impersonate. Which is what the slop companies will do with it.

                                      paul@notnull.spaceP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @dalias yep, absolutely true.

                                      I've seen someone else has blocked the instance IP address. I will be doing the same! (benefits of running your own fedi-server!)

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                                        hashbangperl@hachyderm.io
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                                        @atax1a @dalias same old same old

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                                          yvandasilva@hachyderm.io
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                                          @HollieK72 @kendricklmao8 @dalias
                                          If you want to block another domain, there is also alpaca.blue

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