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  • garybrazzell@mastodon.socialG garybrazzell@mastodon.social

    @neil My bathroom weight scale promised all these fancy features, but when the product arrived, none of the features worked with the scales own display or processing. I had to download the app. The app refused to work unless I gave it access to my camera and my contacts! Is the app going to take a picture of me on the bathroom and contact my friends about it? I deleted the app, and to this day, the scales show up as a device waiting for a connection to anyone in my house.

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    #23

    @garybrazzell @neil I can't help but remember the post I saw recently where a woman discovered that her husband was cheating on her because her scale-app reported someone not-husband-weight using the scale while she wasn't home.

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    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

      My washing machine doesn’t need Wi-Fi.
      It's a feature that I would regret.
      I just need a way to wash my pants.
      Not show them to the Internet.

      My oven doesn't need Wi-Fi.
      I'd value that least of all.
      It's already shielded from getting too hot.
      It doesn't need another firewall.

      My fridge does not need Wi-Fi.
      That is just not useful for me.
      I want a place to chill my food.
      Not chat via TCP/IP.

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      wrote last edited by
      #24

      @neil I did an OTA firmware on my car yesterday which took three hours during which time it was not usable and even the alarm was disabled. It also woke me up this morning by messaging me to tell me it was fully charged. Another feature is that it provides its own WiFi hotspot for up to 8 devices to use. OTOH it seems to be incapable of playing a list of MP3s in random order unlike the old car.

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      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

        My washing machine doesn’t need Wi-Fi.
        It's a feature that I would regret.
        I just need a way to wash my pants.
        Not show them to the Internet.

        My oven doesn't need Wi-Fi.
        I'd value that least of all.
        It's already shielded from getting too hot.
        It doesn't need another firewall.

        My fridge does not need Wi-Fi.
        That is just not useful for me.
        I want a place to chill my food.
        Not chat via TCP/IP.

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        wrote last edited by
        #25

        @neil We just got a new Whirlpool washer and dryer. No WiFi or Bluetooth. They replaced the Maytags that we bought 30 years ago that I've been nursing along for the past 10+ years with lots of repairs.

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        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

          My washing machine doesn’t need Wi-Fi.
          It's a feature that I would regret.
          I just need a way to wash my pants.
          Not show them to the Internet.

          My oven doesn't need Wi-Fi.
          I'd value that least of all.
          It's already shielded from getting too hot.
          It doesn't need another firewall.

          My fridge does not need Wi-Fi.
          That is just not useful for me.
          I want a place to chill my food.
          Not chat via TCP/IP.

          tarix29@tech.lgbtT This user is from outside of this forum
          tarix29@tech.lgbtT This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote last edited by
          #26

          @neil I live in an apartment building where the washing machine (1 for the whole building) has WiFi/Bluetooth. You have to pay to use it and if you don't use their proprietary app and pay with credit card (it does not accept coins or swipe/chip cards, only contactless) it charges you 50 cents more

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          • tarix29@tech.lgbtT tarix29@tech.lgbt

            @neil I live in an apartment building where the washing machine (1 for the whole building) has WiFi/Bluetooth. You have to pay to use it and if you don't use their proprietary app and pay with credit card (it does not accept coins or swipe/chip cards, only contactless) it charges you 50 cents more

            neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote last edited by
            #27

            @tarix29 Oof 😞

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            • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

              My washing machine doesn’t need Wi-Fi.
              It's a feature that I would regret.
              I just need a way to wash my pants.
              Not show them to the Internet.

              My oven doesn't need Wi-Fi.
              I'd value that least of all.
              It's already shielded from getting too hot.
              It doesn't need another firewall.

              My fridge does not need Wi-Fi.
              That is just not useful for me.
              I want a place to chill my food.
              Not chat via TCP/IP.

              P This user is from outside of this forum
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              proscience@toot.community
              wrote last edited by
              #28

              @neil 🎯

              tbc

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              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                My washing machine doesn’t need Wi-Fi.
                It's a feature that I would regret.
                I just need a way to wash my pants.
                Not show them to the Internet.

                My oven doesn't need Wi-Fi.
                I'd value that least of all.
                It's already shielded from getting too hot.
                It doesn't need another firewall.

                My fridge does not need Wi-Fi.
                That is just not useful for me.
                I want a place to chill my food.
                Not chat via TCP/IP.

                iwillyeah@mastodon.ieI This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote last edited by
                #29

                @neil immediately singing to the tune of Winona's Big Brown Beaver.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYDfwUJzYQg

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                • gumnos@mastodon.bsd.cafeG gumnos@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                  My microwave is clearly best.
                  It's never sent a SYN request.

                  It might cook food unevenly
                  but doesn't need DHCP.

                  No updates needed, no network jack,
                  for nation-states to come and hack.

                  If power blinks, the clock will flash,
                  but remote attacks can't make it crash.

                  When your app's site decides to close
                  I'll still enjoy my burritos.

                  @neil

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                  mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
                  wrote last edited by
                  #30

                  @neil @gumnos got a new inverter microwave (soooooo good!) that doesn’t even need the rotating plate any more, and even at the same 100% as the older one is more energy-efficient (mug of milk takes less seconds to get warm enough), and it’s offline and "dumb".

                  No need to accept unevenly warmed food.

                  It’s also a Goddess-sent for cat food, not just things like leftover noodles.

                  (Caso MI-30, if interested.)

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                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                    My washing machine doesn’t need Wi-Fi.
                    It's a feature that I would regret.
                    I just need a way to wash my pants.
                    Not show them to the Internet.

                    My oven doesn't need Wi-Fi.
                    I'd value that least of all.
                    It's already shielded from getting too hot.
                    It doesn't need another firewall.

                    My fridge does not need Wi-Fi.
                    That is just not useful for me.
                    I want a place to chill my food.
                    Not chat via TCP/IP.

                    joonq@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    joonq@mastodon.social
                    wrote last edited by
                    #31

                    @neil But how else are they going to show you ads if they dont have internet? Some ceo somewhere probably 😂

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                    • tarix29@tech.lgbtT tarix29@tech.lgbt

                      @neil I live in an apartment building where the washing machine (1 for the whole building) has WiFi/Bluetooth. You have to pay to use it and if you don't use their proprietary app and pay with credit card (it does not accept coins or swipe/chip cards, only contactless) it charges you 50 cents more

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                      joonq@mastodon.social
                      wrote last edited by
                      #32

                      @tarix29 @neil Someone should jailbrake that thing 😔

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                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                        My washing machine doesn’t need Wi-Fi.
                        It's a feature that I would regret.
                        I just need a way to wash my pants.
                        Not show them to the Internet.

                        My oven doesn't need Wi-Fi.
                        I'd value that least of all.
                        It's already shielded from getting too hot.
                        It doesn't need another firewall.

                        My fridge does not need Wi-Fi.
                        That is just not useful for me.
                        I want a place to chill my food.
                        Not chat via TCP/IP.

                        lexinova@cyberplace.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        lexinova@cyberplace.social
                        wrote last edited by
                        #33

                        @neil in belgium we have a vendor that built his own hardware (washing machine etc), without any wifi etc.

                        and they sell quite well it seem.

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                        • acsawdey@fosstodon.orgA acsawdey@fosstodon.org

                          @neil I wouldn’t mind all these things having WiFi if it was along the lines of OBD-2 in a car. Just query the internal state of the device. But no, it’s used as a conduit for enshittification.

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                          wrote last edited by
                          #34

                          @acsawdey @neil you don't have a subscription, so you clothe remain wet kind of crap soon i guess ?

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                            wrote last edited by
                            #35

                            @acsawdey @neil i will make toilet paper with DRM, only work if you put my brand of toilet paper that must be the same as the toilet itself.

                            And if you have a bidet, it will not work if you don't have toilet paper anymore (like the scan with the imprimante ink).

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                            • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                              My washing machine doesn’t need Wi-Fi.
                              It's a feature that I would regret.
                              I just need a way to wash my pants.
                              Not show them to the Internet.

                              My oven doesn't need Wi-Fi.
                              I'd value that least of all.
                              It's already shielded from getting too hot.
                              It doesn't need another firewall.

                              My fridge does not need Wi-Fi.
                              That is just not useful for me.
                              I want a place to chill my food.
                              Not chat via TCP/IP.

                              limey_tank@mastodon.ieL This user is from outside of this forum
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                              limey_tank@mastodon.ie
                              wrote last edited by
                              #36

                              @neil @Lazarou To think that I was once so naive that I wanted to network everything in the house.

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                              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                My washing machine doesn’t need Wi-Fi.
                                It's a feature that I would regret.
                                I just need a way to wash my pants.
                                Not show them to the Internet.

                                My oven doesn't need Wi-Fi.
                                I'd value that least of all.
                                It's already shielded from getting too hot.
                                It doesn't need another firewall.

                                My fridge does not need Wi-Fi.
                                That is just not useful for me.
                                I want a place to chill my food.
                                Not chat via TCP/IP.

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                                hyacin@social.linux.pizza
                                wrote last edited by
                                #37

                                @neil They don't _need_ those things, no - and the fridge I still wonder about - but I just upgraded to an LG induction unit and I've got to admit, the preheated notifications are actually really useful as we're not always within earshot, and it gets you over there and putting stuff in the oven quicker so it's not sitting there wasting electricity. The washer and dryer notifications aren't bad either so we don't have to keep going down and checking, especially if we're say, waiting for a blanket so we can go to bed or something.

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                                • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                  My washing machine doesn’t need Wi-Fi.
                                  It's a feature that I would regret.
                                  I just need a way to wash my pants.
                                  Not show them to the Internet.

                                  My oven doesn't need Wi-Fi.
                                  I'd value that least of all.
                                  It's already shielded from getting too hot.
                                  It doesn't need another firewall.

                                  My fridge does not need Wi-Fi.
                                  That is just not useful for me.
                                  I want a place to chill my food.
                                  Not chat via TCP/IP.

                                  donchacale@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  donchacale@mastodon.social
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #38

                                  @neil
                                  aka fuq no to the 3rd.
                                  well said.

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                                  • limey_tank@mastodon.ieL limey_tank@mastodon.ie

                                    @neil @Lazarou To think that I was once so naive that I wanted to network everything in the house.

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                                    lazarou@mastodon.social
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #39

                                    @Limey_tank @neil maybe it would be a good idea under some other system than Capitalism?

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                                    • lazarou@mastodon.socialL lazarou@mastodon.social

                                      @Limey_tank @neil maybe it would be a good idea under some other system than Capitalism?

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                                      limey_tank@mastodon.ie
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #40

                                      @Lazarou @neil of course! Open source hardware FTW

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                                      • joonq@mastodon.socialJ joonq@mastodon.social

                                        @tarix29 @neil Someone should jailbrake that thing 😔

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                                        tarix29@tech.lgbt
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #41

                                        @joonq @neil on the one hand I do wish it could be jailbroken, but on the other given that the machine itself processes credit cards I would hope it's relatively secure

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                                        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                          My washing machine doesn’t need Wi-Fi.
                                          It's a feature that I would regret.
                                          I just need a way to wash my pants.
                                          Not show them to the Internet.

                                          My oven doesn't need Wi-Fi.
                                          I'd value that least of all.
                                          It's already shielded from getting too hot.
                                          It doesn't need another firewall.

                                          My fridge does not need Wi-Fi.
                                          That is just not useful for me.
                                          I want a place to chill my food.
                                          Not chat via TCP/IP.

                                          bloor@bloor.twB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          bloor@bloor.tw
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #42

                                          @neil both my washer and dryer have wifi. Never even set it up.

                                          neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN piofthings@mastodon.socialP 2 Replies Last reply
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