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The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

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  • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

    The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

    paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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    #26

    @hannah

    "we don't need to get actual data to get an accurate average. we'll just average up all the already averaged data. it will be just as good."

    narrator: "someone flunked their stats 101 course..."

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    • andygates@mastodon.socialA andygates@mastodon.social

      @foobarsoft @hannah I bet they are hip deep in "digital twin" kool-aid.

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      #27

      @andygates @foobarsoft bingo, those are mentioned later in the article

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      • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

        The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

        earthshine@masto.hackers.townE This user is from outside of this forum
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        #28

        @hannah this truly is the death of all information integrity everywhere.

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        • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

          The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

          klara@wandering.shopK This user is from outside of this forum
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          #29

          @hannah Aaaaaaah.

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          • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

            The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

            wellsitegeo@masto.aiW This user is from outside of this forum
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            #30

            @hannah Feeding the dog it's own vomit. Force-feeding.

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            • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

              The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

              auzdavenice@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #31

              @hannah qualtrics floated this (and maybe went through with it idk) right after chatgpt first went live

              What hilarious is that this agentic things is plausibly *worse* since you're having simulations fill out the survey instead instead of using an llm to generate a bazillion responses. The responses will still be just as bad, but at a huge markup of energy costs

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              • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

                The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

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                #32

                @hannah

                nothing is real

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                • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

                  The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

                  baltakatei@twit.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #33

                  @hannah Wow, sock-puppeting at scale.

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                  • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

                    The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

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                    #34

                    @hannah

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                    • wakame@tech.lgbtW wakame@tech.lgbt

                      @ShadowJonathan @hannah

                      10/10 LLMs think that this is a tremendous idea.

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                      #35

                      @ShadowJonathan @hannah

                      I have a hard time getting over this.

                      I tried irony. Sarcasm. I duckduckgoed the word.

                      Maybe the article misunderstood something? No, doesn't look that way.

                      Sure, there is bias in any sort of polling or study. The way you phrase things can influence how they are answered.

                      But this is just a dice roll with more words.

                      No wait, dice rolls can't be manipulated that easily to skew opinion.

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                      • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #36

                        @cinebox marc andreesen just venmoed you $50m

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                        • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

                          The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

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                          #37

                          @hannah "silicon sampling" inventing fancy new words for synthetic data

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                          • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

                            The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

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                            #38

                            @hannah Perhaps I'm just missing something obvious here, but...isn't the whole point of conducting surveys to gather data from people? If the only entities being surveyed are A.I. agents that mimic human speech and which could be programmed to say anything, how is it meaningful?

                            It seems as meaningful to me as "Our survey data says 95% of people approve our product. We surveyed 1000 people whom we paid $100 each to say positive things about us."

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                            • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

                              The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

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                              #39

                              @hannah next up: instead of spending budget money on organizing elections, we'll just run 400 millions of AI agents, give them personas representing the US demographic, and ask them who would they vote for.

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                              • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

                                The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

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                                #40

                                @hannah "tantalizing" ain't the word.

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                                • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

                                  The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

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                                  #41

                                  @hannah Sounds like someone read about the bootstrap without actually understanding why it works.

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                                  • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

                                    The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

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                                    #42

                                    @hannah@posts.rat.pictures what the actual fucking fuck? So you "simulate" a poll and it generates whatever bullshit outcome you ask for

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                                    • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

                                      The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

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                                      #43

                                      @hannah That's a lot of words ot say: we gonna make shit up

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                                      • hannah@posts.rat.picturesH hannah@posts.rat.pictures

                                        The part of me that used to work for a survey research nonprofit is screaming into a pillow

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                                        #44

                                        @hannah "Four out of five LLMs recommend Trident sugarless gum."

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                                        • unlofl@mstdn.socialU unlofl@mstdn.social

                                          @hannah Wait, I've got a better idea that will still cut their polling costs in half: we survey people but with half the standard sample size, then we run it all through a photo copier and tabulate the results. We'll get the normal sample size and accuracy!

                                          Also, copy machines use a lot less power than AI, its win-win!

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                                          #45

                                          @unlofl @hannah better yet, ask bob, and duplicate his answer sample_size times!

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