In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse.
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@Strandjunker can't decide if the US government is currently being more or less ridiculous than the Romans appointing a horse to the Senate
@FishNamedDog @Strandjunker tyvm, lying laughing
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@Strandjunker Every civilisation collapses eventually, for different reasons. Quite often the system cannot maintain its complexity any longer because the complexity costs keep growing while the resources dwindle, and often the system tries to solve the problem by adding another layer of even more complexity because that was the thing that had always worked in the past.
Once you stop looking at civilisation as a human endeavour run by a bunch of experts and thinkers and begin to look at it as a self-organising complex system consisting of all kinds of humans, most of whom don't really know what they're doing and just repeating what seemed to work in the past, you begin to realise that every civilisation eventually crosses the point of no return where collapse becomes inevitable. The Industrial Age is quite likely already beyond saving, we crossed the line some twenty years ago. -
@Strandjunker time causes even the fabric of the universe to collapse eventually. With so few ways to go about the good and so much variety in the bad, those hands don't need to do any work. Nobody gets to be surprised.
@bnuybot @Strandjunker sadly yes
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In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse. It just didn’t seem plausible.
Anyway, I’ve seen enough. I get it now.
@Strandjunker the key to understanding is definitely the quote marks
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In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse. It just didn’t seem plausible.
Anyway, I’ve seen enough. I get it now.
@Strandjunker I understood it. As a teen, I was absolutely certain that the US would lose its position someday. My hope was that I would die of natural causes before it started to happen. But I have been watching for the signs ever since then. I know the general trajectory, so it's not that hard to see when it's happening.
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In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse. It just didn’t seem plausible.
Anyway, I’ve seen enough. I get it now.
@Strandjunker I read several articles here on M from what I think are serious sources. "Empires collapsing " or "Dark ages¨. Some suggest that was bad for the VVIP-class perhaps. But the lower ranks in society perhaps never knew what happened. Water was streaming down-hilll anyway, birds laying their eggs. Men farming, hunting, women taking care about the house and fermenting. At the end of the Roman Empire and later, genes from N and S European tribes mixed well. Dark Ages ? At night, yes
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In history class, I never understood how “advanced” civilizations could collapse. It just didn’t seem plausible.
Anyway, I’ve seen enough. I get it now.
@Strandjunker I remember during first couple years of COVID totally revising my evaluation that most zombie apocalypse shows were unrealistic in the poor government responses. Never though all those countries would be out thought by brainless zombies.
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