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  3. You may already know that “data centers in space” is a cynical scam to tie AI funding to taxpayer-funded space operations.

You may already know that “data centers in space” is a cynical scam to tie AI funding to taxpayer-funded space operations.

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  • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

    You may already know that “data centers in space” is a cynical scam to tie AI funding to taxpayer-funded space operations. This article does a good job of explaining why the *physics* of putting data centers in space is an enormous problem unlikely to be solved any time soon.

    #ai #scam

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    mikeimback@disabled.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    @drahardja How about we just stop believing EVERYTHING that rich people say for crying out loud...

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      @michael_w_busch @GalbinusCaeli @drahardja Those are 100W/kg? Falcon Heavy is already under $20/w for those panels, and Musk claims that Starship will bring cost much lower. The plans I've seen don't involve batteries, while cooling is a standout problem (the area is there in the shade of the panels, if you can figure out a space-compatible solution for moving coolant). It would be more expensive than claimed but I'm not convinced it's undoable.

      The important question IMO is: Should we?

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      • mirth@mastodon.sdf.orgM mirth@mastodon.sdf.org

        @michael_w_busch @GalbinusCaeli @drahardja Those are 100W/kg? Falcon Heavy is already under $20/w for those panels, and Musk claims that Starship will bring cost much lower. The plans I've seen don't involve batteries, while cooling is a standout problem (the area is there in the shade of the panels, if you can figure out a space-compatible solution for moving coolant). It would be more expensive than claimed but I'm not convinced it's undoable.

        The important question IMO is: Should we?

        mirth@mastodon.sdf.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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        @michael_w_busch @GalbinusCaeli @drahardja (and in my opinion the answer is absolutely not, even if the engineering is workable and the financial case looks ok)

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        • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

          You may already know that “data centers in space” is a cynical scam to tie AI funding to taxpayer-funded space operations. This article does a good job of explaining why the *physics* of putting data centers in space is an enormous problem unlikely to be solved any time soon.

          #ai #scam

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          @drahardja

          $1,200 to $2,500 per pound to put computers (or anything else) into space.

          > ouch <

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            @michael_w_busch @GalbinusCaeli @drahardja Are you arguing that were it economically feasible it would be worth doing?

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              @crouton @drahardja you mean this Thales?

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              • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                You may already know that “data centers in space” is a cynical scam to tie AI funding to taxpayer-funded space operations. This article does a good job of explaining why the *physics* of putting data centers in space is an enormous problem unlikely to be solved any time soon.

                #ai #scam

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                @drahardja

                I'll believe that after they get everyone's wi-fi to work.

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                • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                  You may already know that “data centers in space” is a cynical scam to tie AI funding to taxpayer-funded space operations. This article does a good job of explaining why the *physics* of putting data centers in space is an enormous problem unlikely to be solved any time soon.

                  #ai #scam

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                  jfmezei@mstdn.caJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @drahardja Data Centre in space = Hyperloop scam.

                  But this time, with an easily purchasable government, Melon Husk may get his million satellite slots and spectrum which means that anyone wanting to launch a satellite will need to buy the slot and spectrum from him instead of getting it from government.

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                    @mirth @drahardja @michael_w_busch 100% agreed.

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                    • mirth@mastodon.sdf.orgM mirth@mastodon.sdf.org

                      @michael_w_busch @GalbinusCaeli @drahardja Are you arguing that were it economically feasible it would be worth doing?

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                      @michael_w_busch @drahardja @mirth Me? Absolutely not. It's somewhere between a dumb idea and a scam.

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