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  3. You may already know that “data centers in space” is a cynical scam to tie AI funding to taxpayer-funded space operations.

You may already know that “data centers in space” is a cynical scam to tie AI funding to taxpayer-funded space operations.

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  • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

    You may already know that “data centers in space” is a cynical scam to tie AI funding to taxpayer-funded space operations. This article does a good job of explaining why the *physics* of putting data centers in space is an enormous problem unlikely to be solved any time soon.

    #ai #scam

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    @drahardja

    The muskrat needs to learn some basic physics.

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    • thelancashireman@hostux.socialT thelancashireman@hostux.social

      @drahardja

      The muskrat needs to learn some basic physics.

      drahardja@sfba.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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      @TheLancashireman He already knows it’s impossible, just like he knew the Hyperloop had no chance of success. He says things only to get people to part with their money.

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      • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

        You may already know that “data centers in space” is a cynical scam to tie AI funding to taxpayer-funded space operations. This article does a good job of explaining why the *physics* of putting data centers in space is an enormous problem unlikely to be solved any time soon.

        #ai #scam

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        @drahardja
        It's not about taxpayer money, it's about showing that space x will have a giant market in the future, so the stock price is higher when is starts trading later this year.
        Government money is slow and miserly compared to financial markets!

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        • galbinuscaeli@spacey.spaceG This user is from outside of this forum
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          @michael_w_busch @drahardja A kilo to orbit is a kilo to orbit. That kilo could be producing some watts of electricity or radiating somewhat less.
          In earth orbit a perfect solar panel could collect ~1.3kw per meter, a perfect radiator could emit ~.8kw/m

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          • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

            You may already know that “data centers in space” is a cynical scam to tie AI funding to taxpayer-funded space operations. This article does a good job of explaining why the *physics* of putting data centers in space is an enormous problem unlikely to be solved any time soon.

            #ai #scam

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            Part two: https://news.satnews.com/2026/02/02/the-fractal-lab-part-ii/

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            • drahardja@sfba.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @ckfinite Yes, I would ignore the useless infographic, which could be AI generated and simply repeats verbatim what’s in the text.

              But the text itself seems human-written, albeit…poorly edited.

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              • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                You may already know that “data centers in space” is a cynical scam to tie AI funding to taxpayer-funded space operations. This article does a good job of explaining why the *physics* of putting data centers in space is an enormous problem unlikely to be solved any time soon.

                #ai #scam

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                mikeimback@disabled.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                @drahardja How about we just stop believing EVERYTHING that rich people say for crying out loud...

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                • mirth@mastodon.sdf.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @michael_w_busch @GalbinusCaeli @drahardja Those are 100W/kg? Falcon Heavy is already under $20/w for those panels, and Musk claims that Starship will bring cost much lower. The plans I've seen don't involve batteries, while cooling is a standout problem (the area is there in the shade of the panels, if you can figure out a space-compatible solution for moving coolant). It would be more expensive than claimed but I'm not convinced it's undoable.

                  The important question IMO is: Should we?

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                  • mirth@mastodon.sdf.orgM mirth@mastodon.sdf.org

                    @michael_w_busch @GalbinusCaeli @drahardja Those are 100W/kg? Falcon Heavy is already under $20/w for those panels, and Musk claims that Starship will bring cost much lower. The plans I've seen don't involve batteries, while cooling is a standout problem (the area is there in the shade of the panels, if you can figure out a space-compatible solution for moving coolant). It would be more expensive than claimed but I'm not convinced it's undoable.

                    The important question IMO is: Should we?

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                    @michael_w_busch @GalbinusCaeli @drahardja (and in my opinion the answer is absolutely not, even if the engineering is workable and the financial case looks ok)

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                    • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                      You may already know that “data centers in space” is a cynical scam to tie AI funding to taxpayer-funded space operations. This article does a good job of explaining why the *physics* of putting data centers in space is an enormous problem unlikely to be solved any time soon.

                      #ai #scam

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                      @drahardja

                      $1,200 to $2,500 per pound to put computers (or anything else) into space.

                      > ouch <

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                        @michael_w_busch @GalbinusCaeli @drahardja Are you arguing that were it economically feasible it would be worth doing?

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                          @crouton @drahardja you mean this Thales?

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                          • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                            You may already know that “data centers in space” is a cynical scam to tie AI funding to taxpayer-funded space operations. This article does a good job of explaining why the *physics* of putting data centers in space is an enormous problem unlikely to be solved any time soon.

                            #ai #scam

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                            @drahardja

                            I'll believe that after they get everyone's wi-fi to work.

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                            • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                              You may already know that “data centers in space” is a cynical scam to tie AI funding to taxpayer-funded space operations. This article does a good job of explaining why the *physics* of putting data centers in space is an enormous problem unlikely to be solved any time soon.

                              #ai #scam

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                              @drahardja Data Centre in space = Hyperloop scam.

                              But this time, with an easily purchasable government, Melon Husk may get his million satellite slots and spectrum which means that anyone wanting to launch a satellite will need to buy the slot and spectrum from him instead of getting it from government.

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                                @mirth @drahardja @michael_w_busch 100% agreed.

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                                • mirth@mastodon.sdf.orgM mirth@mastodon.sdf.org

                                  @michael_w_busch @GalbinusCaeli @drahardja Are you arguing that were it economically feasible it would be worth doing?

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                                  @michael_w_busch @drahardja @mirth Me? Absolutely not. It's somewhere between a dumb idea and a scam.

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