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  • cmconseils@mastodon.socialC cmconseils@mastodon.social
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    @cmconseils why tf would they even cover fields outside of having a nice background for the photoshoot? It makes a lot more sense to cover up parking lots or buildings.
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    • sundew@beige.partyS sundew@beige.party

      @cmconseils I'm all for covering car parks with solar panels, but in some cases mixing solar with crops seems to actually _help_ crop yields!

      eg:
      https://www.euro-inox.org/solar-powered-smart-farming-how-agrivoltaics-boost-crop-yields/

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      Highlight of the Week: Significant Good News - Common Good News

      New study finds that solar panels, or "agrivoltaic systems," can significantly boost crop yields and improve soil health.

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      Common Good News - (commongoodnews.org)

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      @sundew@beige.party @cmconseils@mastodon.social yeah, agrivoltaics is a thing. Both with panels over crops, as well as over pastures.
      Replacing farmlands with solar farms is a separate issue.
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        @cmconseils There are plenty of studies showing solar fields can be agriculturally productive and/or great for local biodiversity.

        The USA for example devotes significant acreage to corn monoculture for biofuels. If those fields were solar installations, the power generated would cover the USA's needs many times over, while also providing a habitat for wildflowers, bees, and nature in general.

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          @cmconseils I don't have to add to the chorus of others who've said the same. Cover our carpakrs and buildings indeed.

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            @cmconseils You gotta have LOTS of spare land to waste to have car parks that look like that. Obvs multistorey car parks have less space for solar panels.

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              @cmconseils #agrivoltaics

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                @cmconseils
                Cover the roofs.
                And stop making car based societies.

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                  @cmconseils that's a win win

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                    @cmconseils Abolish parking lots, cover (some) fields.

                    Parking lots are a waste of space even when doubling as solar panels. Can you imagine how many residential units could be built in that huge empty space? How many more shops could be included? And where's the green spaces and third places for people to gather or rest in?

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                    • evoscale@c.imE evoscale@c.im

                      @cmconseils #agrivoltaics

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                      @EvoScale @cmconseils

                      Agrivoltaics is a Thing!
                      Turns ordinary sheep into solarpunk grazers (happy sheep yield more wool).

                      Lots of other success stories here:
                      https://mastodon.social/@CelloMomOnCars/112020795068005590

                      Also:
                      A car park should have just a few spaces, all with EV chargers, and all reserved for disabled drivers. And a bus stop. Sure, put solar over those parking spots.

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                      • bovaz@misskey.socialB bovaz@misskey.social
                        @sundew@beige.party @cmconseils@mastodon.social yeah, agrivoltaics is a thing. Both with panels over crops, as well as over pastures.
                        Replacing farmlands with solar farms is a separate issue.
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                        bovaz@misskey.social Not really. A large chunk of farmlands are actually dedicated to energy production. Just because it looks like food doesn't mean anyone's going to eat it.

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                          bovaz@misskey.social Not really. A large chunk of farmlands are actually dedicated to energy production. Just because it looks like food doesn't mean anyone's going to eat it.

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                          @kichae@wanderingadventure.party You mean biogas/biofuel and stuff like that?
                          I don't know the percentages, and I'm sure they vary a lot by region.
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                            @cmconseils@mastodon.social
                            While Iran is on going take the chance to ration fossil fule use and :

                            - add surcharges to businesses that encourage personal vehicle use
                            - add a per vehicle timesed by cost of vehicle make surcharge. This would include luxury hotels, resorts and airports

                            invest the money raised in projects using renewables and/or encouraging pedestrian business.

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                              @cmconseils Get rid of the car parks and build trams.
                              With the field space that frees up from growing "biodiesel" build as many solar farms as you want. The rest of the leftover field space use for food.

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                                @cmconseils@mastodon.social words cannot describe how impossible this is in america 😞
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                                  @cmconseils Consider that many of the cornfields we currently have are used to produce ethanol to add to fuels. Replacing one type of fuel for another seems like a fair trade to me. In addition, a car park solar installation requires taller, reinforced poles to raise them above the cars parking below. It makes sense to utilize these spaces where there are not any rooftops or fields around, but rooftops and fields are generally a less expensive place to start.

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                                    @cmconseils

                                    It's an idea

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                                      @cmconseils car parking adjacent to high voltage substations is rather limited, and where they are only moderately separated the route to run a substantial cable tends to be through shops, offices, homes, and roads. Rather than across a field or three.

                                      The shade is certainly welcome, eg in France, (and the shelter from rain in England) but the production of electricity is more in scale with the shops and light industry than the Grid.

                                      Meanwhile, our crops are dried out and appreciate shelter.

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                                        @cmconseils that picture is most likely a monocrop field used for bio fuel. it is way better used covered by panels.

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                                          @cmconseils honestly this just reads as a car lobby talking points.

                                          keep burning bio fuel! add more parking spaces with some greenwashing to show we care!

                                          let’s put green spaces in the city instead of huge parkings. there is plenty space for solar panels already.

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