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  3. it's kinda hilarious watching bluesky users talking about how they have to stay on the site, even as it gets worse, because they can't go back to twitter!

it's kinda hilarious watching bluesky users talking about how they have to stay on the site, even as it gets worse, because they can't go back to twitter!

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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    @foone mostly when I try to promote fedi there people yell at me so I stopped 😞

    One time I even had someone have a go at me because fedi is apparently anti queer? That was pretty bizarre

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    @eniko @foone lol I’ve never seen so many queers in my fucking life. It’s amazing here

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    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

      @foone mostly when I try to promote fedi there people yell at me so I stopped 😞

      One time I even had someone have a go at me because fedi is apparently anti queer? That was pretty bizarre

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      @eniko @foone I've heard people say the wildest things about Mastodon.

      "there's no moderation", "they allow nazis" etc.

      idk why it's so hard for people to understand that even though the overall network might not have a single unified moderation policy, the individual instances most definitely have their own rules and you can easily join one that aligns with your own values.

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      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

        I don't know why they have this huge blindspot for mastodon, but it is hilarious to see that every time they talk about the viable microblogging platforms, they will list every possibility except fediverse ones

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        @foone but someone might ask them to use a content warning 😞

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        • miawgogo@fedi.miawgogo.meM miawgogo@fedi.miawgogo.me

          @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place @foone@digipres.club ​​

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          @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place @foone@digipres.club although i did just think about it and i have seen gross behaviour here(recent one was reducing someone who to their parents and then being weird about the it/its pronouns the being used), but its not federated well as its from known instances that dont deal with them, so most block that instance

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          • tijn@dosgame.clubT tijn@dosgame.club

            @eniko @foone I've heard people say the wildest things about Mastodon.

            "there's no moderation", "they allow nazis" etc.

            idk why it's so hard for people to understand that even though the overall network might not have a single unified moderation policy, the individual instances most definitely have their own rules and you can easily join one that aligns with your own values.

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            @Tijn @eniko @foone
            There's the option of suggesting specific instances, rather than fedi as a whole...

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            • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

              I don't know why they have this huge blindspot for mastodon, but it is hilarious to see that every time they talk about the viable microblogging platforms, they will list every possibility except fediverse ones

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              @foone

              tbh we just gave up trying to advocate fedi to our bluesky-main friends, I think their ignoring of our "hey you should try fedi" posts has made it clear that they do not want to hear us talk about it anymore, and would probably rather even go back to twitter and get a blue check 😔

              There's a friend who said they were going to join but they made excuses as to why they never followed through so I left them alone

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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                @foone mostly when I try to promote fedi there people yell at me so I stopped 😞

                One time I even had someone have a go at me because fedi is apparently anti queer? That was pretty bizarre

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                @eniko @foone a lot of people had a bad experience with a weird server or know someone who did and generalized it sux

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                • aran@localization.cafeA aran@localization.cafe

                  @foone I came to the conclusion that some people are simply ideologically opposed to the Fediverse. That billionaire-owned platforms aren't a necessary evil, but their preferred choice. I guess they feel pinko otherwise? 😄

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                  @aran @foone i think some people find it uncomfortable that there isn't a formal hierarchy of power either because they have had bad experiences with what grows in its absence or because they don't have a guide on how to behave

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                  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                    I don't know why they have this huge blindspot for mastodon, but it is hilarious to see that every time they talk about the viable microblogging platforms, they will list every possibility except fediverse ones

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                    @foone Worst is I've seen people start here, go "this isn't right" for reasons not disclosed, move to blue sky and complain about it disclosing *exactly* the reasons it sucks.

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                    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                      I don't know why they have this huge blindspot for mastodon, but it is hilarious to see that every time they talk about the viable microblogging platforms, they will list every possibility except fediverse ones

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                      and to clarify: I'm not saying mastodon is 100% perfect or for everyone.

                      Maybe some of them have tried mastodon and don't like it for whatever reason, sure!

                      but my point is that they don't even mention it as a possibility.

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                      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                        and to clarify: I'm not saying mastodon is 100% perfect or for everyone.

                        Maybe some of them have tried mastodon and don't like it for whatever reason, sure!

                        but my point is that they don't even mention it as a possibility.

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                        it's not that they don't think mastodon is bad for whatever reason, it's that they don't think about mastodon at all

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                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          @foone mostly when I try to promote fedi there people yell at me so I stopped 😞

                          One time I even had someone have a go at me because fedi is apparently anti queer? That was pretty bizarre

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                          @eniko @foone I wonder if instead of actively promoting the Fediverse, simply commenting in these threads with something «I'm not worried about the BlueSky collapse, it won't affect my Mastodon use», like, making it personal instead of a recommendation for others, would be more effective.

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                          • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                            it's not that they don't think mastodon is bad for whatever reason, it's that they don't think about mastodon at all

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                            @foone I increasingly feel as I age that having technological and scientific knowledge is more burden than boon.

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                            • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                              and to clarify: I'm not saying mastodon is 100% perfect or for everyone.

                              Maybe some of them have tried mastodon and don't like it for whatever reason, sure!

                              but my point is that they don't even mention it as a possibility.

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                              @foone I think they just don't see it as a viable platform because it costs money, and doesn't make it, and with our capitalist training that's just something that shouldn't exist. If it at least was spending VC money, and promising future income. But no, we are literally running "at a loss" (if you only care for money).

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                              • aran@localization.cafeA aran@localization.cafe

                                @foone I came to the conclusion that some people are simply ideologically opposed to the Fediverse. That billionaire-owned platforms aren't a necessary evil, but their preferred choice. I guess they feel pinko otherwise? 😄

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                                @aran @foone

                                They honestly feel like if some billionaire isn’t breathing down their neck all the time, they aren’t high class anymore. lol

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                                • oblomov@sociale.networkO oblomov@sociale.network

                                  @eniko @foone I wonder if instead of actively promoting the Fediverse, simply commenting in these threads with something «I'm not worried about the BlueSky collapse, it won't affect my Mastodon use», like, making it personal instead of a recommendation for others, would be more effective.

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                                  @eniko @foone

                                  It should at least decrease the complaints. «Yeah, I'm not suggesting you come over, it's just where I'm at.»

                                  The antiqueer thing is weird, but in these cases I always try to remember that each of us has a very different Fedi experience, and there ARE queer-unfriendly accounts, especially on the larger instances —plus of course the usual Nazi-adjacent instances who are more than happy to roam around and harrass people “just for the fun of it”.

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                                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    @foone mostly when I try to promote fedi there people yell at me so I stopped 😞

                                    One time I even had someone have a go at me because fedi is apparently anti queer? That was pretty bizarre

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                                    @eniko @foone it's always interesting peeking inside these island realities and finding out what people there actually believe that ensures they stay separated from larger realities

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                                    • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

                                      @eniko @foone it's always interesting peeking inside these island realities and finding out what people there actually believe that ensures they stay separated from larger realities

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                                      @eniko @foone (we're not referring to number of users, but a more metaphorical notion of size)

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                                      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                        and to clarify: I'm not saying mastodon is 100% perfect or for everyone.

                                        Maybe some of them have tried mastodon and don't like it for whatever reason, sure!

                                        but my point is that they don't even mention it as a possibility.

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                                        @foone We're kind of like mythical goblins or elfs, if you name us, we'll come & take your children away to program gay flags on 8-bit computers.

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                                        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                          it's not that they don't think mastodon is bad for whatever reason, it's that they don't think about mastodon at all

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                                          @foone this is so good to be transparent.

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