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  3. Wow some terrible reporting about Google's latest horrible ideas about how to distort information access in the name of "convenience" (or something):

Wow some terrible reporting about Google's latest horrible ideas about how to distort information access in the name of "convenience" (or something):

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  • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

    Wow some terrible reporting about Google's latest horrible ideas about how to distort information access in the name of "convenience" (or something):

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    Google Search as you know it is over | TechCrunch

    Google is transforming Search from a list of links into an AI-powered experience filled with conversational answers, autonomous agents, and interactive interfaces — a shift that could further reduce traffic to publishers across the web.

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    A short thread
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    @emilymbender
    Good thing they block adblockers then aye?

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    • damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.orgD damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.org

      @sleepfreeparent @mrmoore @emilymbender Also they can show their ads on their platform without those pesky users nipping off to see the source of the information (and possibly supporting it in any way).

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      @DamonWakes @sleepfreeparent @emilymbender It's amazing how it's changed from want to get users out of search to websites, as quickly as possible. Now, it's the opposite. Keep users in search as long as possible and don't allow them escape to the websites.

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      • tomtom@pouet.chapril.orgT tomtom@pouet.chapril.org

        @ShadSterling @romli @hamishb @emilymbender use duckduckgo and you have simple ai opt out .

        But anyway all this suppose there will be something left to search for on the web. Nowadays most often than not the first 10 links returned are AI generated web site slop.
        Given that this slop is now used to generate further down the drain AI sites, the untrustworthy garbage'll soon supersede 100-1 trustworthy sources.

        Maybe we'll have to come back to human indexed content of a curated list of sites.

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        @tomtom @ShadSterling @romli @hamishb @emilymbender

        Even easier:

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        DuckDuckGo - Protection. Privacy. Peace of mind.

        The Internet privacy company that empowers you to seamlessly take control of your personal information online, without any tradeoffs.

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        DuckDuckGo (noai.duckduckgo.com)

        Enjoy! 😊

        #NoAI

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        • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

          @emilymbender i'm fucking weepi ng

          Information-gathering agents are an evolution of Google

          i have never observed google demonstrate any behavior that struck me as evidence of them gathering any form of information

          Links will become an afterthought

          that reminds me how they own the w3c and use it to ensure no one who has ever created a webpage will ever be able to show it to anyone without exposing them to the most openly broken cryptography i've ever seem

          There’s little time left for publishers to adapt.

          openly gloating

          which will eventually be free

          that's right. we will all be free. that's a cryptographic guarantee

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          @hipsterelectron @emilymbender

          i have never observed google demonstrate any behavior that struck me as evidence of them gathering any form of information

          except for them unethically gathering lots of information about you?

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          • morqendi@mstdn.socialM morqendi@mstdn.social

            @tomtom @ShadSterling @romli @hamishb @emilymbender

            Even easier:

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            DuckDuckGo - Protection. Privacy. Peace of mind.

            The Internet privacy company that empowers you to seamlessly take control of your personal information online, without any tradeoffs.

            favicon

            DuckDuckGo (noai.duckduckgo.com)

            Enjoy! 😊

            #NoAI

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            @morqendi @tomtom @romli @hamishb @emilymbender the only time I use Google is when DDG results are useless so I prepend with “g! ” to try Google, and even the noai version doesn’t append “ -ai” so I still get the AI overview and an actual setting would still help.

            I’ll try to remember to try prepending with “g! -ai “, but that’s not an acceptable way for them to interpret “opt out”

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            • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

              Not satisfied to cut people off from the important sense-making of looking at information in its context and finding and navigating different perspectives (what "AI overviews" do), Google also wants to tell you what to search for:

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              @emilymbender you know, I was just thinking

              Google gave up on "don't be evil" at least a decade ago

              while I worked there about five years ago, they gave up on "respect the user, respect the opportunity, respect each other"

              now they seem to have given up on "organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful"

              I hate that my livelihood is still tied to them.

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