The author of @allaboutberlin on how Google AI Overviews are killing independent web publishing, citing a 70% drop in traffic after seven years of steady growth.
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@Steve @ayl @everton137 @allaboutberlin
Already done:"Before Google, before Facebook, in the internet that time forgot, we needed a way to find websites. By joining a webring with similar-themed sites we can help each other out by cross-linking between them."
https://faircamp.webr.ing/directory.html@dec23k @Steve @everton137 @allaboutberlin thanks for sharing!
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@ayl @everton137 @allaboutberlin webrings. They still exist.
@Ooze @ayl @everton137 @allaboutberlin
I put some webring links here:
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@everton137 @allaboutberlin Then stop supporting Google. If you're not making money from you better ignore it and do your work to be indexed by other search engines. They'll replace you anyway soon. Fuck SEO. Maybe we should come back to build curated indexes of directories.
@sterpeto @everton137 @allaboutberlin
Bring back webrings. In fact, I am going to add one to my site this weekend!
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The author of @allaboutberlin on how Google AI Overviews are killing independent web publishing, citing a 70% drop in traffic after seven years of steady growth. His work trains the model. The model is replacing his site. There is no credit, clicks, or revenue. This is what the "enshittification" of the open web looks like in practice.
Hard to imagine moving to Berlin without stumbling upon his guides at some point.
All About Berlin
Guides for people who want to settle in Berlin. Information about getting a visa, finding a job, finding an apartment, and a lot more.
All About Berlin (allaboutberlin.com)
AI is killing All About Berlin. When you Googled something, you used to get a link to my website. Now you get an AI-generated answer trained on my work. This has a devastating impact on traffic… | Nicolas B. | 170 comments
AI is killing All About Berlin. When you Googled something, you used to get a link to my website. Now you get an AI-generated answer trained on my work. This has a devastating impact on traffic. It's hard to fund my work with 70% fewer visitors. In another year, it will be impossible. Instead of writing new guides, I spend my days preparing for that future. Yesterday, Google announced two things: AI-generated answers will completely replace search results, and AI-generated answers will soon contain ads. This is the future of the web. I don't know where All About Berlin fits in that future. | 170 comments on LinkedIn
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Let them open an account on non-US social media, and see if Mojeek (a 100% UK searchmachine) can do something for them.
The worst thing to do is to complain (which is understandable) but then change nothing.
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@everton137 @allaboutberlin It's almost funny how on-the-nose another recent example is: overfishing.org. The content harvester/processor is literally overfishing the content fishery. In the real world, overfishing was allowed to happen until enough bounty was destroyed that the surviving processors recognized their doom and got laws passed to restrain each other. Is something like that possible here? It's not a perfect analogy (previously harvested fish can be endlessly recycled, the crisis is more on the margin, processor concentration is much higher), but maybe?
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Pepijn (@Pepijn@mastodon.online)
This received some questions. Specifically 'In today's siloed internet its usefulness is gone.' Search was the largest driver of traffic to the website. Informing the general public was the goal. For years it worked truly well, with for example traffic spikes around national holidays involving consumption of fish :) The website had no ads, nor external "social" (tracking) integrations. All information was properly referenced. It was used and referenced in lots of educational material. 1/x
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@gunchleoc @allaboutberlin @everton137
Raising awareness is always good, but not looking for substitutes is just making it worse.
The gigantic corporation Google started growing with a few people, so can substitutes.
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@gunchleoc @allaboutberlin @everton137
Well there you go. You made a change by not using google services, therefor taking a bit of their power.
Bit by bit, individual by individual, people will switch as long as other people make notice about it, untill the critical mass is reached and the corporate is powerless.
And excactly that, is the goal of 'acting'.
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The author of @allaboutberlin on how Google AI Overviews are killing independent web publishing, citing a 70% drop in traffic after seven years of steady growth. His work trains the model. The model is replacing his site. There is no credit, clicks, or revenue. This is what the "enshittification" of the open web looks like in practice.
Hard to imagine moving to Berlin without stumbling upon his guides at some point.
All About Berlin
Guides for people who want to settle in Berlin. Information about getting a visa, finding a job, finding an apartment, and a lot more.
All About Berlin (allaboutberlin.com)
AI is killing All About Berlin. When you Googled something, you used to get a link to my website. Now you get an AI-generated answer trained on my work. This has a devastating impact on traffic… | Nicolas B. | 170 comments
AI is killing All About Berlin. When you Googled something, you used to get a link to my website. Now you get an AI-generated answer trained on my work. This has a devastating impact on traffic. It's hard to fund my work with 70% fewer visitors. In another year, it will be impossible. Instead of writing new guides, I spend my days preparing for that future. Yesterday, Google announced two things: AI-generated answers will completely replace search results, and AI-generated answers will soon contain ads. This is the future of the web. I don't know where All About Berlin fits in that future. | 170 comments on LinkedIn
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#AI #OpenKnowledge #Berlin #Google #Enshittification #OpenWeb #IndieWeb
@everton137 @allaboutberlin Why do we act like there is only one search engine? -
@everton137 @allaboutberlin Sooo.... when Google AI kills all the web.... the fuck the AI going to pull answers from?
@hellomiakoda @everton137 @allaboutberlin
Exactly. Eating their own seed corn seems to be the new business model. I guess executives' the plan is to burn Google and jump clear on golden parachutes.
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@everton137 @allaboutberlin Why do we act like there is only one search engine?
@schmaker @everton137 @allaboutberlin I think it’s a combination of laziness and ignorance. It reminds me of the early days of the web (not the internet) where domain names were just bought up, because they thought (and the users did..) they’d just type an address to find what they wanted. Instead if people had to use search engines I think we’d have a different situation nowadays.
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The author of @allaboutberlin on how Google AI Overviews are killing independent web publishing, citing a 70% drop in traffic after seven years of steady growth. His work trains the model. The model is replacing his site. There is no credit, clicks, or revenue. This is what the "enshittification" of the open web looks like in practice.
Hard to imagine moving to Berlin without stumbling upon his guides at some point.
All About Berlin
Guides for people who want to settle in Berlin. Information about getting a visa, finding a job, finding an apartment, and a lot more.
All About Berlin (allaboutberlin.com)
AI is killing All About Berlin. When you Googled something, you used to get a link to my website. Now you get an AI-generated answer trained on my work. This has a devastating impact on traffic… | Nicolas B. | 170 comments
AI is killing All About Berlin. When you Googled something, you used to get a link to my website. Now you get an AI-generated answer trained on my work. This has a devastating impact on traffic. It's hard to fund my work with 70% fewer visitors. In another year, it will be impossible. Instead of writing new guides, I spend my days preparing for that future. Yesterday, Google announced two things: AI-generated answers will completely replace search results, and AI-generated answers will soon contain ads. This is the future of the web. I don't know where All About Berlin fits in that future. | 170 comments on LinkedIn
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#AI #OpenKnowledge #Berlin #Google #Enshittification #OpenWeb #IndieWeb
@everton137 @allaboutberlin
It sounds like theft,
it looks like theft,
It takes money from one person like theft,
It rots away the very base of itself like theft,
How is this not just theft?
