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I've been seeing chatter about someone using ChatGPT to cure their dog's cancer, so decided to go find out what that was actually about.

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  • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

    I've been seeing chatter about someone using ChatGPT to cure their dog's cancer, so decided to go find out what that was actually about.

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    The short version is that there are some really exciting developments here about mRNA vaccines, based on genomic sequencing of tumor cells, that seem to be having a beneficial effect on the dog in question.
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    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

      The short version is that there are some really exciting developments here about mRNA vaccines, based on genomic sequencing of tumor cells, that seem to be having a beneficial effect on the dog in question.
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      (www.theaustralian.com.au)

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      But the meme version of this story is super misleading. The actual work of creating the treatment was done by people, using various tools, and to the extent that machine learning was involved it was in things like AlphaFold.

      Also, the dog isn't cured -- even the dog's person acknowledges that.
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      • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

        But the meme version of this story is super misleading. The actual work of creating the treatment was done by people, using various tools, and to the extent that machine learning was involved it was in things like AlphaFold.

        Also, the dog isn't cured -- even the dog's person acknowledges that.
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        As for how ChatGPT was relevant to this? Apparently, the desparate dog owner was apparently using it as information source, and landed on the idea of immunotherapy:
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        • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

          As for how ChatGPT was relevant to this? Apparently, the desparate dog owner was apparently using it as information source, and landed on the idea of immunotherapy:
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          But despite being pretty clear in the body of the article that the "cure" (not a cure) came about through the work of scientists (and this dogged dog-dad), The Australian promotes the story like this.

          Shame on them.
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          • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

            As for how ChatGPT was relevant to this? Apparently, the desparate dog owner was apparently using it as information source, and landed on the idea of immunotherapy:
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            @emilymbender the idea of a therapy that already exists?

            Well, that's original.

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            • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

              But despite being pretty clear in the body of the article that the "cure" (not a cure) came about through the work of scientists (and this dogged dog-dad), The Australian promotes the story like this.

              Shame on them.
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              As a general media literacy tip: If the claim is that someone used "AI" or "ChatGPT" to do something, the real story is probably something else.

              jor@eldritch.cafeJ staceycornelius@zeroes.caS pineywoozle@masto.aiP nickrauchen@c.imN simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS 6 Replies Last reply
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              • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                But despite being pretty clear in the body of the article that the "cure" (not a cure) came about through the work of scientists (and this dogged dog-dad), The Australian promotes the story like this.

                Shame on them.
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                @emilymbender LOL. It could read "Art Director Uses ChatGPT to Create Mona Lisa to Save Struggling Art Gallery" and it would still contain more truth than this, LOL.

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                • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                  As a general media literacy tip: If the claim is that someone used "AI" or "ChatGPT" to do something, the real story is probably something else.

                  jor@eldritch.cafeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @emilymbender Except maybe when its something very bad, like mistakenly erase all of their emails. 😐

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                  • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                    As a general media literacy tip: If the claim is that someone used "AI" or "ChatGPT" to do something, the real story is probably something else.

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                    @emilymbender Right at the top of the story (italics mine): "Riddled with cancer, Rosie the rescue dog had only months to live, until her dogged owner collared a chatbot to collaborate with elite medical scientists in the quest for a cure."

                    Thanks for unpacking this. We know how many people don't read past headlines. sigh

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                    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                      The short version is that there are some really exciting developments here about mRNA vaccines, based on genomic sequencing of tumor cells, that seem to be having a beneficial effect on the dog in question.
                      >>

                      favicon

                      (www.theaustralian.com.au)

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                      @emilymbender we tried the melanoma vaccine in our golden, but it had already spread to his lymph node and lung. Doing a quick search I see general information that used to lead a person to Oncept, the melanoma vaccine, is buried far below AI hype of this article. How very unfortunate.

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                      • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                        I've been seeing chatter about someone using ChatGPT to cure their dog's cancer, so decided to go find out what that was actually about.

                        Short 🧡>>

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                        @emilymbender
                        "I used Chat GPT instead of a search engine and got the same results, but presented in a conversational tone! A modern miracle!"

                        (Or maybe I got utter palaver, I didn't bother to follow through and check...)

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                        • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                          I've been seeing chatter about someone using ChatGPT to cure their dog's cancer, so decided to go find out what that was actually about.

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                          @emilymbender

                          In other news, a bank robber blames his car

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                          • jor@eldritch.cafeJ jor@eldritch.cafe

                            @emilymbender Except maybe when its something very bad, like mistakenly erase all of their emails. 😐

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                            @jor @emilymbender nah. Still works: "this poster was not meant to be antisemitic. It was AI."
                            Narrotr's voice: it was not AI.

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                            • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                              As a general media literacy tip: If the claim is that someone used "AI" or "ChatGPT" to do something, the real story is probably something else.

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                              @emilymbender This is AUS not Oz but even here when AI/magic tech actually β€œworks” there is often a man behind the curtain.

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                              • jor@eldritch.cafeJ jor@eldritch.cafe

                                @emilymbender Except maybe when its something very bad, like mistakenly erase all of their emails. 😐

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                                @jor @emilymbender That's a pretty mild example of the bad that can come from these things.

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                                • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                  But despite being pretty clear in the body of the article that the "cure" (not a cure) came about through the work of scientists (and this dogged dog-dad), The Australian promotes the story like this.

                                  Shame on them.
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                                  @emilymbender
                                  If the dog already had cancer, a "vaccine" wouldn't have helped him.

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                                  • mugsysrapsheet@mastodon.socialM mugsysrapsheet@mastodon.social

                                    @emilymbender
                                    If the dog already had cancer, a "vaccine" wouldn't have helped him.

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                                    @MugsysRapSheet I encourage you to read the full thread and/or the linked article. In fact, the mRNA vaccine does appear to have been helpful, though not a cure and not produced with ChatGPT.

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                                    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                      I've been seeing chatter about someone using ChatGPT to cure their dog's cancer, so decided to go find out what that was actually about.

                                      Short 🧡>>

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                                      @emilymbender I've never ued chatGBT to my knowledge.

                                      But I have been called a bitch by someone mentioning dogs before.

                                      It's just so funny, because it's not at all.

                                      Tumor removal is always the best answer.

                                      Keeps us all alive longer.

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                                      • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                        I've been seeing chatter about someone using ChatGPT to cure their dog's cancer, so decided to go find out what that was actually about.

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                                        @emilymbender

                                        Lol. Late 1990s National Enquirer type headlines:

                                        "Tech Boss uses the Internets to Cure His Dog's Cancer!!!"

                                        "Aliens Abduct My Cousin's Neighbor's Plumber's Baby. Shocked Mother says: Baby now speaks unintelligible alien language."

                                        Same gullible crew reading same bs headlines. We're just as stupid as we've always been but of newer things.

                                        Sorry for our species.

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                                        • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                          As a general media literacy tip: If the claim is that someone used "AI" or "ChatGPT" to do something, the real story is probably something else.

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                                          @emilymbender

                                          Some (I for one) think that calling an #LLM "#ArtificialIntelligence" is a misnomer. More marketing hype than anything "intelligent".

                                          As you said above... using #AI pattern matching software for molecular engineering is one thing. Using an LLM to produce #AIslop #microslop #clickbait is another.

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