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I've been seeing chatter about someone using ChatGPT to cure their dog's cancer, so decided to go find out what that was actually about.

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  • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

    As a general media literacy tip: If the claim is that someone used "AI" or "ChatGPT" to do something, the real story is probably something else.

    jor@eldritch.cafeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    @emilymbender Except maybe when its something very bad, like mistakenly erase all of their emails. 😐

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    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

      As a general media literacy tip: If the claim is that someone used "AI" or "ChatGPT" to do something, the real story is probably something else.

      staceycornelius@zeroes.caS This user is from outside of this forum
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      @emilymbender Right at the top of the story (italics mine): "Riddled with cancer, Rosie the rescue dog had only months to live, until her dogged owner collared a chatbot to collaborate with elite medical scientists in the quest for a cure."

      Thanks for unpacking this. We know how many people don't read past headlines. sigh

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      • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

        The short version is that there are some really exciting developments here about mRNA vaccines, based on genomic sequencing of tumor cells, that seem to be having a beneficial effect on the dog in question.
        >>

        favicon

        (www.theaustralian.com.au)

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        @emilymbender we tried the melanoma vaccine in our golden, but it had already spread to his lymph node and lung. Doing a quick search I see general information that used to lead a person to Oncept, the melanoma vaccine, is buried far below AI hype of this article. How very unfortunate.

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        • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

          I've been seeing chatter about someone using ChatGPT to cure their dog's cancer, so decided to go find out what that was actually about.

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          @emilymbender
          "I used Chat GPT instead of a search engine and got the same results, but presented in a conversational tone! A modern miracle!"

          (Or maybe I got utter palaver, I didn't bother to follow through and check...)

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          • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

            I've been seeing chatter about someone using ChatGPT to cure their dog's cancer, so decided to go find out what that was actually about.

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            @emilymbender

            In other news, a bank robber blames his car

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            • jor@eldritch.cafeJ jor@eldritch.cafe

              @emilymbender Except maybe when its something very bad, like mistakenly erase all of their emails. 😐

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              @jor @emilymbender nah. Still works: "this poster was not meant to be antisemitic. It was AI."
              Narrotr's voice: it was not AI.

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              • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                As a general media literacy tip: If the claim is that someone used "AI" or "ChatGPT" to do something, the real story is probably something else.

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                @emilymbender This is AUS not Oz but even here when AI/magic tech actually “works” there is often a man behind the curtain.

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                • jor@eldritch.cafeJ jor@eldritch.cafe

                  @emilymbender Except maybe when its something very bad, like mistakenly erase all of their emails. 😐

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                  @jor @emilymbender That's a pretty mild example of the bad that can come from these things.

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                  • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                    But despite being pretty clear in the body of the article that the "cure" (not a cure) came about through the work of scientists (and this dogged dog-dad), The Australian promotes the story like this.

                    Shame on them.
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                    @emilymbender
                    If the dog already had cancer, a "vaccine" wouldn't have helped him.

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                    • mugsysrapsheet@mastodon.socialM mugsysrapsheet@mastodon.social

                      @emilymbender
                      If the dog already had cancer, a "vaccine" wouldn't have helped him.

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                      @MugsysRapSheet I encourage you to read the full thread and/or the linked article. In fact, the mRNA vaccine does appear to have been helpful, though not a cure and not produced with ChatGPT.

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                      • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                        I've been seeing chatter about someone using ChatGPT to cure their dog's cancer, so decided to go find out what that was actually about.

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                        @emilymbender I've never ued chatGBT to my knowledge.

                        But I have been called a bitch by someone mentioning dogs before.

                        It's just so funny, because it's not at all.

                        Tumor removal is always the best answer.

                        Keeps us all alive longer.

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                        • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                          I've been seeing chatter about someone using ChatGPT to cure their dog's cancer, so decided to go find out what that was actually about.

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                          @emilymbender

                          Lol. Late 1990s National Enquirer type headlines:

                          "Tech Boss uses the Internets to Cure His Dog's Cancer!!!"

                          "Aliens Abduct My Cousin's Neighbor's Plumber's Baby. Shocked Mother says: Baby now speaks unintelligible alien language."

                          Same gullible crew reading same bs headlines. We're just as stupid as we've always been but of newer things.

                          Sorry for our species.

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                          • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                            As a general media literacy tip: If the claim is that someone used "AI" or "ChatGPT" to do something, the real story is probably something else.

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                            @emilymbender

                            Some (I for one) think that calling an #LLM "#ArtificialIntelligence" is a misnomer. More marketing hype than anything "intelligent".

                            As you said above... using #AI pattern matching software for molecular engineering is one thing. Using an LLM to produce #AIslop #microslop #clickbait is another.

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                              @emilymbender

                              Some (I for one) think that calling an #LLM "#ArtificialIntelligence" is a misnomer. More marketing hype than anything "intelligent".

                              As you said above... using #AI pattern matching software for molecular engineering is one thing. Using an LLM to produce #AIslop #microslop #clickbait is another.

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                              @nickrauchen stay splainy Mastodon!

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                              • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                As for how ChatGPT was relevant to this? Apparently, the desparate dog owner was apparently using it as information source, and landed on the idea of immunotherapy:
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                                >journos credited the vaccine to the dogowner's search engine
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                                • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                  I've been seeing chatter about someone using ChatGPT to cure their dog's cancer, so decided to go find out what that was actually about.

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                                  @emilymbender

                                  I've heard of other people becoming ChatGPT disciples because they were able to get it to spit out medical advice that led to them getting an accurate diagnosis or to getting a treatment they otherwise wouldn't have known about.

                                  When I ask questions like "is genAI worth the exploitation, the environmental damage, the concentration of wealth, the erosion of our rights, the intentional weakening of our ability to think for ourselves" they might say, "yes, because no doctor took me seriously or listened to me. No one was interested in helping me or even acknowledging I needed help. But ChatGPT listened. ChatGPT helped."

                                  What does that say about the world we've created around ourselves? About what our cultures and our leaders have forced us to prioritize? They created the problem and are here to sell us the cure.

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                                  • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                    As a general media literacy tip: If the claim is that someone used "AI" or "ChatGPT" to do something, the real story is probably something else.

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                                    @emilymbender

                                    Writers of old didn't publicise that their pen or typewriter wrote their book for them.

                                    So why publicise that something else wrote your book for you? 🤔🤷‍♂️

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                                    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                      As a general media literacy tip: If the claim is that someone used "AI" or "ChatGPT" to do something, the real story is probably something else.

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                                      @emilymbender i mean maybe chatgpt wrote the article

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