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  • david@social.grelli.orgD david@social.grelli.org
    @bloor@bloor.tw

    Have you looked at snac2? https://codeberg.org/grunfink/snac2

    In C, no dependencies, uses small files instead of a DB. make; make install works for everything I need from a single user instance.

    The old UNIX spirit is still alive there
    bloor@bloor.twB This user is from outside of this forum
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    @david Ignorant question: is activtypub another word for mastodon? If not, I'm not sure what this is!

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    • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

      Hrmm due to filling up my database allocation I have had to increase my Masto.Host subscription to $29 a month. Which for what it is is fine value. But is still a fair bit more than I ever ment to be paying for a social media thingy. I'm back to pondering going self-hosted.

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      It’s worse than I thought. I don’t blame Masto.host for this, but everywhere on their site it said 29 dollars. But now the email has come through from what I assume/guess is the payment processor it’s actually $34.80, I assume due to VAT that hasn’t been properly indicated at earlier stages. So I am paying £25.82 a month (at current exchange rates) to be on mastodon with my own instance.

      That really does feel expensive.

      Again, not criticising Masto.host.

      dan@mastodon.durrans.comD neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN gadgetoid@fosstodon.orgG 3 Replies Last reply
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      • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

        It’s worse than I thought. I don’t blame Masto.host for this, but everywhere on their site it said 29 dollars. But now the email has come through from what I assume/guess is the payment processor it’s actually $34.80, I assume due to VAT that hasn’t been properly indicated at earlier stages. So I am paying £25.82 a month (at current exchange rates) to be on mastodon with my own instance.

        That really does feel expensive.

        Again, not criticising Masto.host.

        dan@mastodon.durrans.comD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #38

        @bloor are you using a lot of media storage. The VM I am self hosting on is 2 core 8Gb ram and 32Gb disk. That includes media store and database and OS.

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        • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

          It’s worse than I thought. I don’t blame Masto.host for this, but everywhere on their site it said 29 dollars. But now the email has come through from what I assume/guess is the payment processor it’s actually $34.80, I assume due to VAT that hasn’t been properly indicated at earlier stages. So I am paying £25.82 a month (at current exchange rates) to be on mastodon with my own instance.

          That really does feel expensive.

          Again, not criticising Masto.host.

          neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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          #39

          @bloor I can share with you the script that I run to purge my instance (daily), but I don't know if one can use it with masto.host (or if you would want to)?

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          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

            @bloor I can share with you the script that I run to purge my instance (daily), but I don't know if one can use it with masto.host (or if you would want to)?

            bloor@bloor.twB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #40

            @neil one of the things I really valued about Twitter and miss about (current setup) of mastodon was the longevity of stuff. Someone could search on Twitter and find a tweet I did about some obscure topic 3 years before. Mastodon lacks that, kind-of. But with elastic search I could at least semi get it back for myself searching my own tweets.

            I don’t think I’d want to auto purge but I fully understand why some folks might do.

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            • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

              @neil one of the things I really valued about Twitter and miss about (current setup) of mastodon was the longevity of stuff. Someone could search on Twitter and find a tweet I did about some obscure topic 3 years before. Mastodon lacks that, kind-of. But with elastic search I could at least semi get it back for myself searching my own tweets.

              I don’t think I’d want to auto purge but I fully understand why some folks might do.

              bloor@bloor.twB This user is from outside of this forum
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              #41

              @neil as a recent example of this, someone here recently asked about my desktop (the wooden one, not the electronic one) and I was able to manually scroll back through media posted and re-reference a bunch of photo toots from when I was building my main computer desk.

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              • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                @neil as a recent example of this, someone here recently asked about my desktop (the wooden one, not the electronic one) and I was able to manually scroll back through media posted and re-reference a bunch of photo toots from when I was building my main computer desk.

                bloor@bloor.twB This user is from outside of this forum
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                @neil here’s the toot :

                🆎 (@bloor@bloor.tw)

                @twp@hachyderm.io 1) https://bloor.tw/@bloor/114983265081099947 2) https://bloor.tw/@bloor/115004910734887219 3) https://bloor.tw/@bloor/115004921172421239 4) https://bloor.tw/@bloor/115012406159098791 5) https://bloor.tw/@bloor/115012438061079085 6) https://bloor.tw/@bloor/115029078908383063 7) https://bloor.tw/@bloor/115034934887345579 8) https://bloor.tw/@bloor/115046363249364515 9) https://bloor.tw/@bloor/115046367213834474 10) https://bloor.tw/@bloor/115046370985228463

                favicon

                Bloor's Mastodon (bloor.tw)

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                • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                  @neil one of the things I really valued about Twitter and miss about (current setup) of mastodon was the longevity of stuff. Someone could search on Twitter and find a tweet I did about some obscure topic 3 years before. Mastodon lacks that, kind-of. But with elastic search I could at least semi get it back for myself searching my own tweets.

                  I don’t think I’d want to auto purge but I fully understand why some folks might do.

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                  #43

                  @bloor Yes, completely understandable.

                  For me, this is a transient thing (although I can't stop others making comments), and my blog is for things that I want to persist.

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                  • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                    @david Ignorant question: is activtypub another word for mastodon? If not, I'm not sure what this is!

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                    @bloor@bloor.tw
                    Activitypub is the open protocol in the background.
                    Mastodon is one of many different more or less interoperable applications built on top of it. Snac2 is another one.

                    There are minor differences in what they each provide on top of activitypub, but snac provides a mastodon compatible web API, so that you can use all the usual mastodon clients to interact with it.

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                    • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                      It’s worse than I thought. I don’t blame Masto.host for this, but everywhere on their site it said 29 dollars. But now the email has come through from what I assume/guess is the payment processor it’s actually $34.80, I assume due to VAT that hasn’t been properly indicated at earlier stages. So I am paying £25.82 a month (at current exchange rates) to be on mastodon with my own instance.

                      That really does feel expensive.

                      Again, not criticising Masto.host.

                      gadgetoid@fosstodon.orgG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @bloor ouch. I went for cheap VPS hosting for my microblog instance (@gadgetoid@mastodon.gadgetoid.com ) and self hosting has been its own adventure. Mastodon is complicated and unwieldy and trying to regenerate static assets will knock out my server so I have a local staging copy just for that. And then there’s the hassle of backups. I’m sure there are solutions involving money and time but I don’t want a second job running a mastodon server. £25/month to avoid that is…. tempting.

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                      • david@social.grelli.orgD david@social.grelli.org
                        @bloor@bloor.tw
                        Activitypub is the open protocol in the background.
                        Mastodon is one of many different more or less interoperable applications built on top of it. Snac2 is another one.

                        There are minor differences in what they each provide on top of activitypub, but snac provides a mastodon compatible web API, so that you can use all the usual mastodon clients to interact with it.

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                        @bloor@bloor.tw

                        My social.grelli.org runs on snac

                        @stefano@bsd.cafe
                        runs fedimeteo with weather forecast accounts for the whole world on snac from a 5EUR/month VPS

                        As a happy client of the place you work at, and it's philosophy, I'm quite sure you'll like snac. 🙂
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                        • david@social.grelli.orgD david@social.grelli.org
                          @bloor@bloor.tw

                          My social.grelli.org runs on snac

                          @stefano@bsd.cafe
                          runs fedimeteo with weather forecast accounts for the whole world on snac from a 5EUR/month VPS

                          As a happy client of the place you work at, and it's philosophy, I'm quite sure you'll like snac. 🙂
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                          @david @stefano this is interesting - but I’m wondering if I’ll be able to migrate all my old toots / media etc into a snac instead of a mastodon

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                          • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                            @david @stefano this is interesting - but I’m wondering if I’ll be able to migrate all my old toots / media etc into a snac instead of a mastodon

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                            @bloor@bloor.tw

                            Maybe @gyptazy@gyptazy.com can advise? I think he was running both for a while

                            Snac's author is @grunfink@comam.es


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                            • david@social.grelli.orgD david@social.grelli.org
                              @bloor@bloor.tw

                              Maybe @gyptazy@gyptazy.com can advise? I think he was running both for a while

                              Snac's author is @grunfink@comam.es


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                              @david @bloor @gyptazy @grunfink unfortunately, you can't (easily) migrate media/old toots. There are some external tools that can help with it, but I've never tried them. You can move your followers/followings.

                              Mastodon isn't that heavy - but media storage can become huge. snac won't download and reprocess all the media files (so it's light) and can give a good experience. It's not a fully featured Mastodon experience but...hey, it's not Mastodon 😉

                              You can also consider other solutions like GoToSocial. It has a more complete Mastodon API implementation as it has no native web interface (you can use all the web ones like Phanpy, elk, nicolium, etc)

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