Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (Cyborg)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

CIRCLE WITH A DOT

  1. Home
  2. Uncategorized
  3. Hrmm due to filling up my database allocation I have had to increase my Masto

Hrmm due to filling up my database allocation I have had to increase my Masto

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Uncategorized
49 Posts 14 Posters 73 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

    @ben @wishy @dtl see .. I have never used docker and have no idea how to use it or even really what it’s for…

    steve@mastodon.nexusuk.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
    steve@mastodon.nexusuk.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
    steve@mastodon.nexusuk.org
    wrote last edited by
    #20

    @bloor @ben @wishy @dtl I believe Docker is for a similar purpose to AutoTools. I.e. to make simple stuff go wrong in complex un-debuggable ways. 🙂

    wishy@tooter.wishy.co.ukW 1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

      @bloor @ben @wishy @dtl

      I am self-hosted, on an N100 Intel NUC.

      I am not using docker.

      I do not do anything fancy to keep it going (and it gets a fair workout :)).

      It is not the most trivial installation, but not is it too bad.

      neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
      neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
      neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk
      wrote last edited by
      #21

      @bloor @ben @wishy @dtl

      I am more than happy to go through it with you remotely at some point, should you wish!

      bloor@bloor.twB 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

        @ben @wishy @dtl see .. I have never used docker and have no idea how to use it or even really what it’s for…

        ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.ukB This user is from outside of this forum
        ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.ukB This user is from outside of this forum
        ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.uk
        wrote last edited by
        #22

        @bloor @wishy @dtl

        fair. Easiest way to think of it is a small prebuilt vm image but without a kernel and (usually) designed to run a single app.

        Running a docker container is generally easy, but troubleshooting docker issues can be a pain (though rarely needed IME), so I guess a native install might end up being less burden if you're not already doing that anyway

        bloor@bloor.twB 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

          @bloor @ben @wishy @dtl

          I am more than happy to go through it with you remotely at some point, should you wish!

          bloor@bloor.twB This user is from outside of this forum
          bloor@bloor.twB This user is from outside of this forum
          bloor@bloor.tw
          wrote last edited by
          #23

          @neil @ben @wishy @dtl thank you, I may very well take you up on that, I think I need to try and get my “basic requirements” in order first though, perhaps a machine or a virtual machine, nice and clean and ready

          neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.ukB ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.uk

            @bloor @wishy @dtl

            fair. Easiest way to think of it is a small prebuilt vm image but without a kernel and (usually) designed to run a single app.

            Running a docker container is generally easy, but troubleshooting docker issues can be a pain (though rarely needed IME), so I guess a native install might end up being less burden if you're not already doing that anyway

            bloor@bloor.twB This user is from outside of this forum
            bloor@bloor.twB This user is from outside of this forum
            bloor@bloor.tw
            wrote last edited by
            #24

            @ben @wishy @dtl why not just use a VM?

            ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.ukB 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

              @neil @ben @wishy @dtl thank you, I may very well take you up on that, I think I need to try and get my “basic requirements” in order first though, perhaps a machine or a virtual machine, nice and clean and ready

              neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
              neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
              neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk
              wrote last edited by
              #25

              @bloor @ben @wishy @dtl

              Sure!

              Personally, I am not using a VM, although there may be some value to that. I dedicated the whole machine to Mastodon, but then I, erm, use it rather a lot!

              So just a normal Debian installation for me.

              dtl@8bitorbust.infoD 1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                @ben @wishy @dtl why not just use a VM?

                ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.ukB This user is from outside of this forum
                ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.ukB This user is from outside of this forum
                ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.uk
                wrote last edited by
                #26

                @bloor @wishy @dtl The answer to that depends a bit on exact needs, but

                Scalability - I can run far more containers than I can VMs because containers don't usually bring userspace and kernel overhead

                Ease of deployment: containers ship with all their deps in there, so there's no screwing about with dep hell (or incompatible deps being required by different apps). That also makes support easier if you're shipping

                upgrades are also much easier - you just change the tag and pull the new image.

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • steve@mastodon.nexusuk.orgS steve@mastodon.nexusuk.org

                  @bloor @ben @wishy @dtl I believe Docker is for a similar purpose to AutoTools. I.e. to make simple stuff go wrong in complex un-debuggable ways. 🙂

                  wishy@tooter.wishy.co.ukW This user is from outside of this forum
                  wishy@tooter.wishy.co.ukW This user is from outside of this forum
                  wishy@tooter.wishy.co.uk
                  wrote last edited by
                  #27

                  @steve @bloor @ben @dtl in the case of masto, I would say the ruby setup is a bit of a pain. Docker just gives you a pre built image which largely just works

                  steve@mastodon.nexusuk.orgS 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                    @bloor @ben @wishy @dtl

                    Sure!

                    Personally, I am not using a VM, although there may be some value to that. I dedicated the whole machine to Mastodon, but then I, erm, use it rather a lot!

                    So just a normal Debian installation for me.

                    dtl@8bitorbust.infoD This user is from outside of this forum
                    dtl@8bitorbust.infoD This user is from outside of this forum
                    dtl@8bitorbust.info
                    wrote last edited by
                    #28

                    @bloor @ben @wishy @neil I'm interested in how you keep it segmented from the rest of your network.

                    neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN bloor@bloor.twB 2 Replies Last reply
                    0
                    • dtl@8bitorbust.infoD dtl@8bitorbust.info

                      @bloor @ben @wishy @neil I'm interested in how you keep it segmented from the rest of your network.

                      neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
                      neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
                      neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk
                      wrote last edited by
                      #29

                      @dtl @bloor @ben @wishy

                      It is on its own VLAN, plus ingress and egress firewalling.

                      ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.ukB 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • dtl@8bitorbust.infoD dtl@8bitorbust.info

                        @bloor @ben @wishy @neil I'm interested in how you keep it segmented from the rest of your network.

                        bloor@bloor.twB This user is from outside of this forum
                        bloor@bloor.twB This user is from outside of this forum
                        bloor@bloor.tw
                        wrote last edited by
                        #30

                        @dtl @ben @wishy @neil separate IP block, separate VLAN maybe separate machine or maybe different VLANs to different VMs

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                          @dtl @bloor @ben @wishy

                          It is on its own VLAN, plus ingress and egress firewalling.

                          ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.ukB This user is from outside of this forum
                          ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.ukB This user is from outside of this forum
                          ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.uk
                          wrote last edited by
                          #31

                          @neil @dtl @bloor @wishy Similar here, it's in its own segment - my firewall has multiple NICs so hangs off one of those.

                          I gave that segment its own IPv6 subnet, so if there ever was an issue, I'll be able to see at a glance whether it was our LAN or the masto box (less so for ipv4 though because NAT)

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • wishy@tooter.wishy.co.ukW wishy@tooter.wishy.co.uk

                            @steve @bloor @ben @dtl in the case of masto, I would say the ruby setup is a bit of a pain. Docker just gives you a pre built image which largely just works

                            steve@mastodon.nexusuk.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
                            steve@mastodon.nexusuk.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
                            steve@mastodon.nexusuk.org
                            wrote last edited by
                            #32

                            @wishy @bloor @ben @dtl I am put off by Docker because even though set up is easier, when it goes wrong I find it so much harder to debug. I use 2 Docker things (VWsFriend and HomeAssistant) and I pray they never break!

                            ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.ukB 1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • steve@mastodon.nexusuk.orgS steve@mastodon.nexusuk.org

                              @wishy @bloor @ben @dtl I am put off by Docker because even though set up is easier, when it goes wrong I find it so much harder to debug. I use 2 Docker things (VWsFriend and HomeAssistant) and I pray they never break!

                              ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.ukB This user is from outside of this forum
                              ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.ukB This user is from outside of this forum
                              ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.uk
                              wrote last edited by
                              #33

                              @steve @wishy @bloor @dtl Yeah that's fair

                              I remember nearly going to war with engineering because they wanted to start shipping software to us (ops) as docker images solely because it made deployment easier for them.

                              I get on very well with containers nowadays (didnt have much choice when I started owning a SaaS product running on k8s), but (if I was still there) I think I'd still make the same arguments against them driving the CDN

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                                @ben @wishy @dtl see .. I have never used docker and have no idea how to use it or even really what it’s for…

                                srtcd424@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
                                srtcd424@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
                                srtcd424@mas.to
                                wrote last edited by
                                #34

                                @bloor @ben @wishy @dtl sadly docker is probably the worst implementation of the container concept, but it useful in the modern world, even if it shouldn't be. podman is saner in many respects. It's also worth playing with "full system" containers via e.g. systemd-nspawn - they might make more sense if you're used to VMs, and it uses the same kernel features as application containers, so it's a good way of getting experience with those.

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                                  @ben @wishy @dtl see .. I have never used docker and have no idea how to use it or even really what it’s for…

                                  david@social.grelli.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
                                  david@social.grelli.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
                                  david@social.grelli.org
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #35
                                  @bloor@bloor.tw

                                  Have you looked at snac2? https://codeberg.org/grunfink/snac2

                                  In C, no dependencies, uses small files instead of a DB. make; make install works for everything I need from a single user instance.

                                  The old UNIX spirit is still alive there
                                  bloor@bloor.twB 1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • david@social.grelli.orgD david@social.grelli.org
                                    @bloor@bloor.tw

                                    Have you looked at snac2? https://codeberg.org/grunfink/snac2

                                    In C, no dependencies, uses small files instead of a DB. make; make install works for everything I need from a single user instance.

                                    The old UNIX spirit is still alive there
                                    bloor@bloor.twB This user is from outside of this forum
                                    bloor@bloor.twB This user is from outside of this forum
                                    bloor@bloor.tw
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #36

                                    @david Ignorant question: is activtypub another word for mastodon? If not, I'm not sure what this is!

                                    david@social.grelli.orgD 1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                                      Hrmm due to filling up my database allocation I have had to increase my Masto.Host subscription to $29 a month. Which for what it is is fine value. But is still a fair bit more than I ever ment to be paying for a social media thingy. I'm back to pondering going self-hosted.

                                      bloor@bloor.twB This user is from outside of this forum
                                      bloor@bloor.twB This user is from outside of this forum
                                      bloor@bloor.tw
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #37

                                      It’s worse than I thought. I don’t blame Masto.host for this, but everywhere on their site it said 29 dollars. But now the email has come through from what I assume/guess is the payment processor it’s actually $34.80, I assume due to VAT that hasn’t been properly indicated at earlier stages. So I am paying £25.82 a month (at current exchange rates) to be on mastodon with my own instance.

                                      That really does feel expensive.

                                      Again, not criticising Masto.host.

                                      dan@mastodon.durrans.comD neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN gadgetoid@fosstodon.orgG 3 Replies Last reply
                                      0
                                      • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                                        It’s worse than I thought. I don’t blame Masto.host for this, but everywhere on their site it said 29 dollars. But now the email has come through from what I assume/guess is the payment processor it’s actually $34.80, I assume due to VAT that hasn’t been properly indicated at earlier stages. So I am paying £25.82 a month (at current exchange rates) to be on mastodon with my own instance.

                                        That really does feel expensive.

                                        Again, not criticising Masto.host.

                                        dan@mastodon.durrans.comD This user is from outside of this forum
                                        dan@mastodon.durrans.comD This user is from outside of this forum
                                        dan@mastodon.durrans.com
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #38

                                        @bloor are you using a lot of media storage. The VM I am self hosting on is 2 core 8Gb ram and 32Gb disk. That includes media store and database and OS.

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                                          It’s worse than I thought. I don’t blame Masto.host for this, but everywhere on their site it said 29 dollars. But now the email has come through from what I assume/guess is the payment processor it’s actually $34.80, I assume due to VAT that hasn’t been properly indicated at earlier stages. So I am paying £25.82 a month (at current exchange rates) to be on mastodon with my own instance.

                                          That really does feel expensive.

                                          Again, not criticising Masto.host.

                                          neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
                                          neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
                                          neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #39

                                          @bloor I can share with you the script that I run to purge my instance (daily), but I don't know if one can use it with masto.host (or if you would want to)?

                                          bloor@bloor.twB 1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • World
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups