We REALLY need to reintroduce the Roman custom of Damnatio Memoriae—"damnation of memory", excision of a name and person from the written record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae
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This is what actually should happen indeed, was only yesterday discussing this when the example of Akhenaton in ancient Egypt came to my mind…
Erased from all official records…@xs4me2 @cstross @Remittancegirl
Imperial China's version of this was "Nine Generations".
The six dynasties bankrolling Project 2025 should keep this in mind.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/28/project-2025-heritage-foundation-hack
Project 2025 Offers Dystopian View of America
The ACLU is fighting back against this extremist proposal by the Heritage Foundation.
American Civil Liberties Union (www.aclu.org)
Bradley, Koch, Coors, Scaife Mellon, Seid, Uihlein
6 Billionaire Fortunes Bankrolling Project 2025
More than $120 million from a few ultra-wealthy families who have spent years working to promote climate change denial has powered the Heritage Foundation and other groups that created the plan to remake American government.
DeSmog (www.desmog.com)
Mapped: How 6 Billionaire Family Fortunes Fund Project 2025
Unraveling a $130 million web of climate denial, political extremism, and Trump campaign ties.
DeSmog (www.desmog.com)
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We REALLY need to reintroduce the Roman custom of Damnatio Memoriae—"damnation of memory", excision of a name and person from the written record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae
@cstross Per Wikipedia on the formal Degradation of members of the Order of the Garter - they read aloud the order, removed the former Knight's banner, crest, helm, and sword, and kicked the former member out of the chapel and into the castle ditch. The last such formal degradation was in 1716, but recent the Andrew formerly known as Prince as struck off the rolls.
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RE: https://mstdn.social/@Remittancegirl/116311624371729823
We REALLY need to reintroduce the Roman custom of Damnatio Memoriae—"damnation of memory", excision of a name and person from the written record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae
Santayana has entered the chat…
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” – George Santayana, The Life of Reason, 1905
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Santayana has entered the chat…
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” – George Santayana, The Life of Reason, 1905
@Dhmspector Even those who can remember the past are often still condemned to repeat it (paraphrasing Freud) @cstross
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@Dhmspector Even those who can remember the past are often still condemned to repeat it (paraphrasing Freud) @cstross
Sadly true.
… and for still others, it seems repeating the past is their whole goal. (See Trump and fascism)
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RE: https://mstdn.social/@Remittancegirl/116311624371729823
We REALLY need to reintroduce the Roman custom of Damnatio Memoriae—"damnation of memory", excision of a name and person from the written record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae
@cstross
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We REALLY need to reintroduce the Roman custom of Damnatio Memoriae—"damnation of memory", excision of a name and person from the written record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae
@cstross Been saying this for years. Damnatio memoriae, and also exile. Preferably to a space capsule orbiting a black hole.
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@cstross it’s gonna be hard, with his minted coins and his signature of currency bills. But I sister has a mortal fear of being erased
@Remittancegirl
I think the Federal Reserve Notes will be removed from circulation through unofficial means. MAGA will keep some as mementos, and I graffiti will appear on them, so the notes will eventually need to be retired.
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RE: https://mstdn.social/@Remittancegirl/116311624371729823
We REALLY need to reintroduce the Roman custom of Damnatio Memoriae—"damnation of memory", excision of a name and person from the written record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae
@cstross disagree. The record must accurately reflect events, good and bad. Removing facts amounts to censorship.
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@cstross disagree. The record must accurately reflect events, good and bad. Removing facts amounts to censorship.
Agreed. It's nice to think no one will remember the bad people/things, but that's just allowing history to repeat.
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RE: https://mstdn.social/@Remittancegirl/116311624371729823
We REALLY need to reintroduce the Roman custom of Damnatio Memoriae—"damnation of memory", excision of a name and person from the written record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae
@cstross The number of places still bearing his name in a decade will be a barometer of public safety.
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We REALLY need to reintroduce the Roman custom of Damnatio Memoriae—"damnation of memory", excision of a name and person from the written record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae
Nah. I want to shame these MAGA bastards forever with what they've done to this country.
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@cstross @pluralistic @Remittancegirl I look forward to a future in which the only mention of Trump's name in the media comes in the form of headlines that say "Donald Trump still dead”.
@octows @cstross @pluralistic @Remittancegirl
SNL Generalissimo Francisco Franco style...
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@cstross agreed, but could we start with the French custom of guillotine?
@allpoints Yup!
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Didn't work for Herostartus (burned the Artemision) or Akhenaten (tried monotheism in Egypt), or... well, lots of examples.
@davidbrin has periodically suggested, instead of suppressing their names, we legally force a name change to an embarrassing obscenity & require its use in public. (Real name can be in a footnote, but only one time per publication, with limits on type size.)
Just *imagine* the contest to propose a new name for Trump.
@weekend_editor @cstross @davidbrin
Santorum...
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RE: https://mstdn.social/@Remittancegirl/116311624371729823
We REALLY need to reintroduce the Roman custom of Damnatio Memoriae—"damnation of memory", excision of a name and person from the written record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae
@cstross I've often thought that people with the same name as disgraced politicians (anyone else called "Liz Truss", for instance) should have the fee for a deed poll waived by the government. Their very name has been made a liability through no fault of their own.
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RE: https://mstdn.social/@Remittancegirl/116311624371729823
We REALLY need to reintroduce the Roman custom of Damnatio Memoriae—"damnation of memory", excision of a name and person from the written record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae
@cstross And if we all stopped posting his name - in whatever mood context - guess what, he'd be forgotten PDQ.
Problem would be tho, what's left to talk about at the water cooler?
