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  3. We REALLY need to reintroduce the Roman custom of Damnatio Memoriae—"damnation of memory", excision of a name and person from the written record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae

We REALLY need to reintroduce the Roman custom of Damnatio Memoriae—"damnation of memory", excision of a name and person from the written record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae

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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    RE: https://mstdn.social/@Remittancegirl/116311624371729823

    We REALLY need to reintroduce the Roman custom of Damnatio Memoriae—"damnation of memory", excision of a name and person from the written record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae

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    @cstross @Remittancegirl

    Santayana has entered the chat…

    ​“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” – George Santayana, The Life of Reason, 1905

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    • dhmspector@mastodon.socialD dhmspector@mastodon.social

      @cstross @Remittancegirl

      Santayana has entered the chat…

      ​“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” – George Santayana, The Life of Reason, 1905

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      @Dhmspector Even those who can remember the past are often still condemned to repeat it (paraphrasing Freud) @cstross

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      • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

        @Dhmspector Even those who can remember the past are often still condemned to repeat it (paraphrasing Freud) @cstross

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        @Remittancegirl @cstross

        Sadly true.

        … and for still others, it seems repeating the past is their whole goal. (See Trump and fascism)

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        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

          RE: https://mstdn.social/@Remittancegirl/116311624371729823

          We REALLY need to reintroduce the Roman custom of Damnatio Memoriae—"damnation of memory", excision of a name and person from the written record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae

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          @cstross
          Even the Kennedys weren't omnipresent.

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          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

            RE: https://mstdn.social/@Remittancegirl/116311624371729823

            We REALLY need to reintroduce the Roman custom of Damnatio Memoriae—"damnation of memory", excision of a name and person from the written record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae

            mrmoniker@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            @cstross Been saying this for years. Damnatio memoriae, and also exile. Preferably to a space capsule orbiting a black hole.

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            • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

              @cstross it’s gonna be hard, with his minted coins and his signature of currency bills. But I sister has a mortal fear of being erased

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              @Remittancegirl
              I think the Federal Reserve Notes will be removed from circulation through unofficial means. MAGA will keep some as mementos, and I graffiti will appear on them, so the notes will eventually need to be retired.
              @cstross

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              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                RE: https://mstdn.social/@Remittancegirl/116311624371729823

                We REALLY need to reintroduce the Roman custom of Damnatio Memoriae—"damnation of memory", excision of a name and person from the written record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae

                satchmo35@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
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                @cstross disagree. The record must accurately reflect events, good and bad. Removing facts amounts to censorship.

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                • satchmo35@mas.toS satchmo35@mas.to

                  @cstross disagree. The record must accurately reflect events, good and bad. Removing facts amounts to censorship.

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                  @satchmo35 @cstross

                  Agreed. It's nice to think no one will remember the bad people/things, but that's just allowing history to repeat.

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                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                    RE: https://mstdn.social/@Remittancegirl/116311624371729823

                    We REALLY need to reintroduce the Roman custom of Damnatio Memoriae—"damnation of memory", excision of a name and person from the written record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae

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                    @cstross The number of places still bearing his name in a decade will be a barometer of public safety.

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                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                      RE: https://mstdn.social/@Remittancegirl/116311624371729823

                      We REALLY need to reintroduce the Roman custom of Damnatio Memoriae—"damnation of memory", excision of a name and person from the written record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae

                      darwinwoodka@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @cstross

                      Nah. I want to shame these MAGA bastards forever with what they've done to this country.

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                      • octows@mastodon.socialO octows@mastodon.social

                        @cstross @pluralistic @Remittancegirl I look forward to a future in which the only mention of Trump's name in the media comes in the form of headlines that say "Donald Trump still dead”.

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                        @octows @cstross @pluralistic @Remittancegirl

                        SNL Generalissimo Francisco Franco style...

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                        • allpoints@mstdn.socialA allpoints@mstdn.social

                          @cstross agreed, but could we start with the French custom of guillotine?

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                          @allpoints Yup!

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                          • weekend_editor@mathstodon.xyzW weekend_editor@mathstodon.xyz

                            @cstross

                            Didn't work for Herostartus (burned the Artemision) or Akhenaten (tried monotheism in Egypt), or... well, lots of examples.

                            @davidbrin has periodically suggested, instead of suppressing their names, we legally force a name change to an embarrassing obscenity & require its use in public. (Real name can be in a footnote, but only one time per publication, with limits on type size.)

                            Just *imagine* the contest to propose a new name for Trump.

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                            @weekend_editor @cstross @davidbrin

                            Santorum...

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                            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                              RE: https://mstdn.social/@Remittancegirl/116311624371729823

                              We REALLY need to reintroduce the Roman custom of Damnatio Memoriae—"damnation of memory", excision of a name and person from the written record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae

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                              @cstross I've often thought that people with the same name as disgraced politicians (anyone else called "Liz Truss", for instance) should have the fee for a deed poll waived by the government. Their very name has been made a liability through no fault of their own.

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                              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                RE: https://mstdn.social/@Remittancegirl/116311624371729823

                                We REALLY need to reintroduce the Roman custom of Damnatio Memoriae—"damnation of memory", excision of a name and person from the written record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae

                                softproof@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @cstross And if we all stopped posting his name - in whatever mood context - guess what, he'd be forgotten PDQ.

                                Problem would be tho, what's left to talk about at the water cooler?

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