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Please stop asking AI for legal advice.

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  • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

    Please stop asking AI for legal advice. I got yelled at today by a person who was convinced their GenAI was right and I was wrong on a legal issue bc "computers can't make mistakes."

    Worse, the GenAI assured the person (wrongly) it is covered by the same attorney client privilege that lawyers are.

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    @theleftistlawyer I genuinely cannot fathom how these companies aren’t getting inundated with lawsuits. Just constantly getting served. Buried under mountains of papers, and that’s just the list of plaintiffs.

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    • thriftwicker@mastodon.socialT thriftwicker@mastodon.social

      @tantramar @fsinn @theleftistlawyer

      That is a lot nicer than cannon fodder, I suppose.

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      @thriftwicker @fsinn @theleftistlawyer 😬

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      • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

        Please stop asking AI for legal advice. I got yelled at today by a person who was convinced their GenAI was right and I was wrong on a legal issue bc "computers can't make mistakes."

        Worse, the GenAI assured the person (wrongly) it is covered by the same attorney client privilege that lawyers are.

        nicelymanifest@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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        @theleftistlawyer What will exacerbate this problem is the chronic loss of critical thinking across the land.

        Too many allow themselves to be driven by the herd - they see justification because 'most people do that'.

        Including wearing headphones when crossing the road and not looking as your eyes are still on your phone.

        Hear no car.
        See no car.
        ...

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        • tantramar@zeroes.caT tantramar@zeroes.ca

          @thriftwicker @fsinn @theleftistlawyer 😬

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          @tantramar @fsinn @theleftistlawyer

          My apologies if that was a little too heavy.

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          • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

            Please stop asking AI for legal advice. I got yelled at today by a person who was convinced their GenAI was right and I was wrong on a legal issue bc "computers can't make mistakes."

            Worse, the GenAI assured the person (wrongly) it is covered by the same attorney client privilege that lawyers are.

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            @theleftistlawyer

            Oh, wow, no! I wouldn't type any sensitive information into an #LMM running in the cloud — let alone anything requiring a lawyer! 😳

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            • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

              Please stop asking AI for legal advice. I got yelled at today by a person who was convinced their GenAI was right and I was wrong on a legal issue bc "computers can't make mistakes."

              Worse, the GenAI assured the person (wrongly) it is covered by the same attorney client privilege that lawyers are.

              bms48@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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              @theleftistlawyer I asked a Claude Haiku instance, and a Qwen VL 30B instance, for UK-specific intellectual property advice. The answers directly contradicted standing advice from the UK Intellectual Property Office. Risk management does not even begin to describe how ridiculous this is.

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              • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                Please stop asking AI for legal advice. I got yelled at today by a person who was convinced their GenAI was right and I was wrong on a legal issue bc "computers can't make mistakes."

                Worse, the GenAI assured the person (wrongly) it is covered by the same attorney client privilege that lawyers are.

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                @theleftistlawyer
                Similarly, chatbot users who were discussing mental health with their LLM of choice also believed, incorrectly, that their health information is protected
                https://fediscience.org/@nyhan/115152094181697986

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                • thriftwicker@mastodon.socialT thriftwicker@mastodon.social

                  @tantramar @fsinn @theleftistlawyer

                  My apologies if that was a little too heavy.

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                  @thriftwicker @fsinn @theleftistlawyer Not at all. Made me realize I came across too heavily. 🫤

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                  • bms48@mastodon.socialB bms48@mastodon.social

                    @theleftistlawyer I asked a Claude Haiku instance, and a Qwen VL 30B instance, for UK-specific intellectual property advice. The answers directly contradicted standing advice from the UK Intellectual Property Office. Risk management does not even begin to describe how ridiculous this is.

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                    @theleftistlawyer Oh yeah. Don't forget the CDPA 1988 Act here means you can copyright GenAI stuff as long as it's... "original". But I don't quite think in the way Toni Halliday was singing about on Leftfield's debut album. Gotta document user prompts. But system prompts and reasoning traces are proprietary for proprietary models, so I question how this might hold up in practice. The safest option? One-shotting the boilerplate with a US-hosted Chinese open weights model, or don't use it at all.

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                    • tantramar@zeroes.caT tantramar@zeroes.ca

                      @thriftwicker @fsinn @theleftistlawyer Not at all. Made me realize I came across too heavily. 🫤

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                      @tantramar @fsinn @theleftistlawyer

                      Nah. We are good. Being on mastodon has been an enlightening lession on thinking before I speak.

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                      • alisonw@fedimon.ukA alisonw@fedimon.uk

                        @theleftistlawyer
                        "Computers can't make mistakes"? Seriously? Whoa. 😳🤣😅😂

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                        @AlisonW @theleftistlawyer someone heard "computers do exactly what they're programmed to do" and extrapolated that to "they don't make mistakes."

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                        • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                          Please stop asking AI for legal advice. I got yelled at today by a person who was convinced their GenAI was right and I was wrong on a legal issue bc "computers can't make mistakes."

                          Worse, the GenAI assured the person (wrongly) it is covered by the same attorney client privilege that lawyers are.

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                          @theleftistlawyer

                          It gets worse!!

                          Even when a tech corp *claims* it is following privacy law--they -still- do not.

                          Honestly, it's come to the point where the privacy assurances of any digital corpo entity are reduced to "maybe they will adhere--and maybe they won't!"

                          I bet on "won't". I never trust corpos to be honest, ethical or moral in any of their dealings. I am proved reasonable in that assumption, again and again.

                          evacide (@evacide@hachyderm.io)

                          One reason that threat modeling for your digital privacy/security is harder than it looks is that most people don't know what data is being generated about them and who has access to it. https://www.proofnews.org/womans-talkspace-therapy-app-sessions-exposed-in-court/

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                          • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                            Please stop asking AI for legal advice. I got yelled at today by a person who was convinced their GenAI was right and I was wrong on a legal issue bc "computers can't make mistakes."

                            Worse, the GenAI assured the person (wrongly) it is covered by the same attorney client privilege that lawyers are.

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                            @theleftistlawyer worse yet, I’ve literally been dealing with a lawyer using AI to give me legal advice and literally get things wrong that can be cross-checked with a quick Google search. 😩😩😩

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                            • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                              Please stop asking AI for legal advice. I got yelled at today by a person who was convinced their GenAI was right and I was wrong on a legal issue bc "computers can't make mistakes."

                              Worse, the GenAI assured the person (wrongly) it is covered by the same attorney client privilege that lawyers are.

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                              @theleftistlawyer see also technical advise, medical advise, and relationship advise as a starter ... sigh

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                              • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                                Please stop asking AI for legal advice. I got yelled at today by a person who was convinced their GenAI was right and I was wrong on a legal issue bc "computers can't make mistakes."

                                Worse, the GenAI assured the person (wrongly) it is covered by the same attorney client privilege that lawyers are.

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                                @theleftistlawyer
                                Computers can't make mistakes

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                                • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                                  Please stop asking AI for legal advice. I got yelled at today by a person who was convinced their GenAI was right and I was wrong on a legal issue bc "computers can't make mistakes."

                                  Worse, the GenAI assured the person (wrongly) it is covered by the same attorney client privilege that lawyers are.

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                                  @theleftistlawyer The comedy sketch I always think of when people suggest the problem may be with the computer: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qNDS4kVwA68

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                                  • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                                    Please stop asking AI for legal advice. I got yelled at today by a person who was convinced their GenAI was right and I was wrong on a legal issue bc "computers can't make mistakes."

                                    Worse, the GenAI assured the person (wrongly) it is covered by the same attorney client privilege that lawyers are.

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                                    @theleftistlawyer Why anyone would trust an aggregation tool over a studied professional is beyond me. Just like people self diagnosing and treating illnesses and wounds with ChatGPT rather than consulting a vetted first aid handbook/manual. It's a fancy search tool that delivers overly confident information in a way that is designed to make you trust it, regardless of the answer. This has been tested and proven time and time again. A tool that convinces young people to kill themselves should not be considered the authority on anything based in reality. What happened to critical thinking?!

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                                    • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                                      Please stop asking AI for legal advice. I got yelled at today by a person who was convinced their GenAI was right and I was wrong on a legal issue bc "computers can't make mistakes."

                                      Worse, the GenAI assured the person (wrongly) it is covered by the same attorney client privilege that lawyers are.

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                                      @theleftistlawyer In case of interest, there is an international database about this: https://www.damiencharlotin.com/hallucinations/

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                                      • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                                        Please stop asking AI for legal advice. I got yelled at today by a person who was convinced their GenAI was right and I was wrong on a legal issue bc "computers can't make mistakes."

                                        Worse, the GenAI assured the person (wrongly) it is covered by the same attorney client privilege that lawyers are.

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                                        @theleftistlawyer As a Senior Software and Firmware Engineer for decades, that "computers can't make mistakes" part has me grinning.

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                                        • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                                          Please stop asking AI for legal advice. I got yelled at today by a person who was convinced their GenAI was right and I was wrong on a legal issue bc "computers can't make mistakes."

                                          Worse, the GenAI assured the person (wrongly) it is covered by the same attorney client privilege that lawyers are.

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                                          @theleftistlawyer I wish there was a search engine to find out what kind of lawyer I need to ask. That would be infinitely more helpful than an AI would say "Oh, you're absolutely right!" while I'm in jail.

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