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Ugh Windows 11 is installing.

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  • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

    What's with Windows 11 and laptop fans? I'm barely using the processor or Intel Arc GPU and the fans go haywire all the time.

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    Yeah this fan stuff is bonkers. Windows 11 seems to boost the CPU frequency a lot more often and for longer than Linux does, and the same applies to the integrated Arc GPU. Absolutely wild.

    Used to be that Linux had the fan noise and heat when playing YouTube, but now it's Windows 11. This is bizarre.

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    • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

      Yeah this fan stuff is bonkers. Windows 11 seems to boost the CPU frequency a lot more often and for longer than Linux does, and the same applies to the integrated Arc GPU. Absolutely wild.

      Used to be that Linux had the fan noise and heat when playing YouTube, but now it's Windows 11. This is bizarre.

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      Even at like 2% CPU it's rocking like 3Ghz. Why? That makes zero sense.

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      • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

        @Kancept People paid good money to see me suffer:

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        @thomholwerda I forgot about that! Newborns do that to a person...

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        • portaloffreedom@social.linux.pizzaP portaloffreedom@social.linux.pizza

          @gunstick @thomholwerda that probably checks out, except that my company laptop has some extra crap and the fans never spin down, not even after two full days of work (8h+8h)

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          @portaloffreedom @thomholwerda
          The thermal paste has dried up, so you have bad cooling.

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          • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

            What's with Windows 11 and laptop fans? I'm barely using the processor or Intel Arc GPU and the fans go haywire all the time.

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            @thomholwerda There are two ways to make my notebook's fans scream: Do something that's actually compute intensive, or just boot the Windows VM and let it idle.

            Since the early 2000s, my slogan has been "Windows has no place on laptops". The reasons back then were completely different than today (specifically, reconfiguring Ethernet in the pre-DHCP days was too much of a hassle), but the principle itself stands.

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            • gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.luG gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.lu

              @portaloffreedom @thomholwerda
              The thermal paste has dried up, so you have bad cooling.

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              @gunstick @thomholwerda the laptop is new? A thinkpad of one year old, but started doing this as soon as I got it. Plus it's a general complain from everyone.

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              • portaloffreedom@social.linux.pizzaP portaloffreedom@social.linux.pizza

                @gunstick @thomholwerda the laptop is new? A thinkpad of one year old, but started doing this as soon as I got it. Plus it's a general complain from everyone.

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                @portaloffreedom @thomholwerda ah, no, that happens only on old laptops.

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                • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

                  Even at like 2% CPU it's rocking like 3Ghz. Why? That makes zero sense.

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                  @thomholwerda maybe telemetry or defender (malware scanner) running in the background?

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                  • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

                    Even at like 2% CPU it's rocking like 3Ghz. Why? That makes zero sense.

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                    Update on my adoring fans: got a big Windows update today and it seems to have fixed it? It could also possibly be related to this Dasharo Coreboot issue:

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                    Component Dasharo firmware Device NovaCustom V56 14th Gen Dasharo version v1.0.0 Dasharo Tools Suite version No response Test case ID No response Brief summary Especially under Windows, the fan is quite noisy, even though the Silent fan ...

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                    • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

                      Update on my adoring fans: got a big Windows update today and it seems to have fixed it? It could also possibly be related to this Dasharo Coreboot issue:

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                      Excessive fan noise V5xxTNx, v1.0.0, especially under Windows · Issue #1804 · Dasharo/dasharo-issues

                      Component Dasharo firmware Device NovaCustom V56 14th Gen Dasharo version v1.0.0 Dasharo Tools Suite version No response Test case ID No response Brief summary Especially under Windows, the fan is quite noisy, even though the Silent fan ...

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                      GitHub (github.com)

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                      Update on sleep/wake issue: switching Dasharo Coreboot from S3 to S0ix fixed that problem. Sleep/wake no longer an issue.

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                      • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

                        Update on sleep/wake issue: switching Dasharo Coreboot from S3 to S0ix fixed that problem. Sleep/wake no longer an issue.

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                        Wait, here's actual proof. This is my life now. You paid for this. You sick nerds paid money to see me suffer.

                        You're on a list now, for sure.

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                        • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

                          Wait, here's actual proof. This is my life now. You paid for this. You sick nerds paid money to see me suffer.

                          You're on a list now, for sure.

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                          @thomholwerda He suffered for our sins so we didn't have to.

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                          • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

                            Wait, here's actual proof. This is my life now. You paid for this. You sick nerds paid money to see me suffer.

                            You're on a list now, for sure.

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                            There's no Mastodon/Fedi application for Windows and that sucks.

                            No, the one you want to mention to me now is garbage. I tried them all.

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                            • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

                              There's no Mastodon/Fedi application for Windows and that sucks.

                              No, the one you want to mention to me now is garbage. I tried them all.

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                              @thomholwerda@exquisite.social you can try Tuba in WSL xD

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                              • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

                                Sleeping seems to hurt the Windows 11. Won't wake. Not sure yet what's going on.

                                I promised I'd use new Outlook. I'm using new Outlook. It's miserable.

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                                @thomholwerda Oh no, don’t use the new Outlook, it is funneling your mails to Microsoft servers! 🫣

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                                • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

                                  There's no Mastodon/Fedi application for Windows and that sucks.

                                  No, the one you want to mention to me now is garbage. I tried them all.

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                                  @thomholwerda I didn't even know desktop apps existed for mastodon hahaah.

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                                  • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

                                    Wait, here's actual proof. This is my life now. You paid for this. You sick nerds paid money to see me suffer.

                                    You're on a list now, for sure.

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                                    @thomholwerda No dark mode? I can't handle all the brightness of the default white mode in Windows. I set a nice dark theme with purple accent colors, otherwise I end up like Cillian Murphy in Sunshine.

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                                    • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

                                      There's no Mastodon/Fedi application for Windows and that sucks.

                                      No, the one you want to mention to me now is garbage. I tried them all.

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                                      @thomholwerda Now I want to know what you normally use

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                                      • kaidenshi@exquisite.socialK kaidenshi@exquisite.social

                                        @thomholwerda No dark mode? I can't handle all the brightness of the default white mode in Windows. I set a nice dark theme with purple accent colors, otherwise I end up like Cillian Murphy in Sunshine.

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                                        @kaidenshi I kind of alternate between the two throughout the year. All light mode right now, but it'll change in a few weeks or months.

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                                        • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

                                          @kaidenshi I kind of alternate between the two throughout the year. All light mode right now, but it'll change in a few weeks or months.

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                                          @thomholwerda Gotcha, like some folks will set theirs to change with sunrise/sunset, you're doing basically the same thing 😅

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