Ugh Windows 11 is installing.

[sharkfie@infosec.exchange]

@thomholwerda I am very happy, thank you.

Are you enjoying the very responsive UI?

[fluchtkapsel@nerdculture.de]

@thomholwerda @tragivictoria And it's already a massive improvement to Windows before 7.

[fluchtkapsel@nerdculture.de]

@thomholwerda @tragivictoria Installing Windows made me switch to Linux. 20 years ago.

[thomholwerda@exquisite.social]

@sharkfie Don't push it.

[thomholwerda@exquisite.social]

Sleeping seems to hurt the Windows 11. Won't wake. Not sure yet what's going on.

I promised I'd use new Outlook. I'm using new Outlook. It's miserable.

[thomholwerda@exquisite.social]

What's with Windows 11 and laptop fans? I'm barely using the processor or Intel Arc GPU and the fans go haywire all the time.

[oleksandr@activitypub.natalenko.name]

@thomholwerda It's trying to fly but can't.

[portaloffreedom@social.linux.pizza]

@thomholwerda oh I had the same on my company laptop but I was assuming it was clownstrike's fault

[gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.lu]

@portaloffreedom @thomholwerda
It's the downloading of updates.
I had a room with 16 student PCs.
I switched them on all at the same time.
They had high CPU for over 1 hour.
Yes, computers sitting idle on the login screen.
Just to download windows updates.
After 1 hour the room temperature had risen by 1°C and the building AC was running.

How do I know? Another lonly PC I switche on, had high burning fans. And when shutting down it installed updates. And after that the fans were quiet.

[portaloffreedom@social.linux.pizza]

@gunstick @thomholwerda that probably checks out, except that my company laptop has some extra crap and the fans never spin down, not even after two full days of work (8h+8h)

[thomholwerda@exquisite.social]

Yeah this fan stuff is bonkers. Windows 11 seems to boost the CPU frequency a lot more often and for longer than Linux does, and the same applies to the integrated Arc GPU. Absolutely wild.

Used to be that Linux had the fan noise and heat when playing YouTube, but now it's Windows 11. This is bizarre.

[thomholwerda@exquisite.social]

Even at like 2% CPU it's rocking like 3Ghz. Why? That makes zero sense.

[kancept@infosec.exchange]

@thomholwerda I forgot about that! Newborns do that to a person...

[gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.lu]

@portaloffreedom @thomholwerda
The thermal paste has dried up, so you have bad cooling.

[keyj@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@thomholwerda There are two ways to make my notebook's fans scream: Do something that's actually compute intensive, or just boot the Windows VM and let it idle.

Since the early 2000s, my slogan has been "Windows has no place on laptops". The reasons back then were completely different than today (specifically, reconfiguring Ethernet in the pre-DHCP days was too much of a hassle), but the principle itself stands.

[portaloffreedom@social.linux.pizza]

@gunstick @thomholwerda the laptop is new? A thinkpad of one year old, but started doing this as soon as I got it. Plus it's a general complain from everyone.

[gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.lu]

@portaloffreedom @thomholwerda ah, no, that happens only on old laptops.

[gryzor@androiddev.social]

@thomholwerda maybe telemetry or defender (malware scanner) running in the background?

[thomholwerda@exquisite.social]

Update on my adoring fans: got a big Windows update today and it seems to have fixed it? It could also possibly be related to this Dasharo Coreboot issue:

Excessive fan noise V5xxTNx, v1.0.0, especially under Windows · Issue #1804 · Dasharo/dasharo-issues

Component Dasharo firmware Device NovaCustom V56 14th Gen Dasharo version v1.0.0 Dasharo Tools Suite version No response Test case ID No response Brief summary Especially under Windows, the fan is quite noisy, even though the Silent fan ...

GitHub (github.com)

[thomholwerda@exquisite.social]

Update on sleep/wake issue: switching Dasharo Coreboot from S3 to S0ix fixed that problem. Sleep/wake no longer an issue.