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Ugh Windows 11 is installing.

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  • tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

    @thomholwerda@exquisite.social so, which installation is easier? Windows 11 or what we can find in linux land?

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    @tragivictoria Linux. It's not even close.

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    • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

      Also, Windows 11 doesn't come with the Intel drivers for the Wi-Fi 7 Intel BE200, so now I'm hunting down driver files manually so I can continue the installation. At least the trackpad works in this phase, but without any gesture/scrolling support.

      We're off to a swell start, everybody.

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      I sure do hope the screen comes back at some point during this Intel graphics driver update process. πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

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      • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

        I sure do hope the screen comes back at some point during this Intel graphics driver update process. πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

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        Narrator: it didn't come back.

        Forced reboot was required. Install completed though. πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

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        • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

          Ugh Windows 11 is installing. Hope you nerds are happy now.

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          @thomholwerda I am very happy, thank you.

          Are you enjoying the very responsive UI?

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          • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

            @tragivictoria Linux. It's not even close.

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            @thomholwerda @tragivictoria And it's already a massive improvement to Windows before 7.

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            • fluchtkapsel@nerdculture.deF fluchtkapsel@nerdculture.de

              @thomholwerda @tragivictoria And it's already a massive improvement to Windows before 7.

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              @thomholwerda @tragivictoria Installing Windows made me switch to Linux. 20 years ago.

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              • sharkfie@infosec.exchangeS sharkfie@infosec.exchange

                @thomholwerda I am very happy, thank you.

                Are you enjoying the very responsive UI?

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                @sharkfie Don't push it.

                πŸ˜‚

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                • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

                  Narrator: it didn't come back.

                  Forced reboot was required. Install completed though. πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

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                  Sleeping seems to hurt the Windows 11. Won't wake. Not sure yet what's going on.

                  I promised I'd use new Outlook. I'm using new Outlook. It's miserable.

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                    Sleeping seems to hurt the Windows 11. Won't wake. Not sure yet what's going on.

                    I promised I'd use new Outlook. I'm using new Outlook. It's miserable.

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                    What's with Windows 11 and laptop fans? I'm barely using the processor or Intel Arc GPU and the fans go haywire all the time.

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                    • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

                      What's with Windows 11 and laptop fans? I'm barely using the processor or Intel Arc GPU and the fans go haywire all the time.

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                      @thomholwerda It's trying to fly but can't.

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                      • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

                        What's with Windows 11 and laptop fans? I'm barely using the processor or Intel Arc GPU and the fans go haywire all the time.

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                        @thomholwerda oh I had the same on my company laptop but I was assuming it was clownstrike's fault

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                        • portaloffreedom@social.linux.pizzaP portaloffreedom@social.linux.pizza

                          @thomholwerda oh I had the same on my company laptop but I was assuming it was clownstrike's fault

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                          @portaloffreedom @thomholwerda
                          It's the downloading of updates.
                          I had a room with 16 student PCs.
                          I switched them on all at the same time.
                          They had high CPU for over 1 hour.
                          Yes, computers sitting idle on the login screen.
                          Just to download windows updates.
                          After 1 hour the room temperature had risen by 1Β°C and the building AC was running.

                          How do I know? Another lonly PC I switche on, had high burning fans. And when shutting down it installed updates. And after that the fans were quiet.

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                          • gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.luG gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.lu

                            @portaloffreedom @thomholwerda
                            It's the downloading of updates.
                            I had a room with 16 student PCs.
                            I switched them on all at the same time.
                            They had high CPU for over 1 hour.
                            Yes, computers sitting idle on the login screen.
                            Just to download windows updates.
                            After 1 hour the room temperature had risen by 1Β°C and the building AC was running.

                            How do I know? Another lonly PC I switche on, had high burning fans. And when shutting down it installed updates. And after that the fans were quiet.

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                            @gunstick @thomholwerda that probably checks out, except that my company laptop has some extra crap and the fans never spin down, not even after two full days of work (8h+8h)

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                            • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

                              What's with Windows 11 and laptop fans? I'm barely using the processor or Intel Arc GPU and the fans go haywire all the time.

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                              Yeah this fan stuff is bonkers. Windows 11 seems to boost the CPU frequency a lot more often and for longer than Linux does, and the same applies to the integrated Arc GPU. Absolutely wild.

                              Used to be that Linux had the fan noise and heat when playing YouTube, but now it's Windows 11. This is bizarre.

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                              • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

                                Yeah this fan stuff is bonkers. Windows 11 seems to boost the CPU frequency a lot more often and for longer than Linux does, and the same applies to the integrated Arc GPU. Absolutely wild.

                                Used to be that Linux had the fan noise and heat when playing YouTube, but now it's Windows 11. This is bizarre.

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                                Even at like 2% CPU it's rocking like 3Ghz. Why? That makes zero sense.

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                                • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

                                  @Kancept People paid good money to see me suffer:

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                                  @thomholwerda I forgot about that! Newborns do that to a person...

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                                  • portaloffreedom@social.linux.pizzaP portaloffreedom@social.linux.pizza

                                    @gunstick @thomholwerda that probably checks out, except that my company laptop has some extra crap and the fans never spin down, not even after two full days of work (8h+8h)

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                                    @portaloffreedom @thomholwerda
                                    The thermal paste has dried up, so you have bad cooling.

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                                    • thomholwerda@exquisite.socialT thomholwerda@exquisite.social

                                      What's with Windows 11 and laptop fans? I'm barely using the processor or Intel Arc GPU and the fans go haywire all the time.

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                                      @thomholwerda There are two ways to make my notebook's fans scream: Do something that's actually compute intensive, or just boot the Windows VM and let it idle.

                                      Since the early 2000s, my slogan has been "Windows has no place on laptops". The reasons back then were completely different than today (specifically, reconfiguring Ethernet in the pre-DHCP days was too much of a hassle), but the principle itself stands.

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                                      • gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.luG gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.lu

                                        @portaloffreedom @thomholwerda
                                        The thermal paste has dried up, so you have bad cooling.

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                                        @gunstick @thomholwerda the laptop is new? A thinkpad of one year old, but started doing this as soon as I got it. Plus it's a general complain from everyone.

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                                        • portaloffreedom@social.linux.pizzaP portaloffreedom@social.linux.pizza

                                          @gunstick @thomholwerda the laptop is new? A thinkpad of one year old, but started doing this as soon as I got it. Plus it's a general complain from everyone.

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                                          @portaloffreedom @thomholwerda ah, no, that happens only on old laptops.

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