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  • tchambers@indieweb.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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    This is precisely correct.

    "The difference from corporate social media comes down to incentive structures. Platforms designed around narcissism & parasocial relationships produce content optimized for engagement. A federated network w/ no central owner produces something closer to actual knowledge-sharing, because nobody profits from making it addictive."

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    rowat_c@mastodon.socialR mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM alterelefant@mastodontech.deA paelnever@masto.esP bms48@mastodon.socialB 6 Replies Last reply
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    • tchambers@indieweb.socialT tchambers@indieweb.social

      This is precisely correct.

      "The difference from corporate social media comes down to incentive structures. Platforms designed around narcissism & parasocial relationships produce content optimized for engagement. A federated network w/ no central owner produces something closer to actual knowledge-sharing, because nobody profits from making it addictive."

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      Why Mastodon matters now more than its creators imagined

      Mat Duggan expected Mastodon to be Twitter without ads. Instead, it became his only reliable source of information.

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      rowat_c@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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      @tchambers on social media harming children, has anyone seen studies that distinguish between 'social media' and 'algorithmic feed'?

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      • tchambers@indieweb.socialT tchambers@indieweb.social

        This is precisely correct.

        "The difference from corporate social media comes down to incentive structures. Platforms designed around narcissism & parasocial relationships produce content optimized for engagement. A federated network w/ no central owner produces something closer to actual knowledge-sharing, because nobody profits from making it addictive."

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        Why Mastodon matters now more than its creators imagined

        Mat Duggan expected Mastodon to be Twitter without ads. Instead, it became his only reliable source of information.

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        mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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        @tchambers

        One of the best short descriptions of the Fedi, and why it is so vital.

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        • rowat_c@mastodon.socialR rowat_c@mastodon.social

          @tchambers on social media harming children, has anyone seen studies that distinguish between 'social media' and 'algorithmic feed'?

          alterelefant@mastodontech.deA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @rowat_c
          That is indeed a very good point. It seems they measured 'algorithmic feeds' instead of social media.
          @tchambers

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          • tchambers@indieweb.socialT tchambers@indieweb.social

            This is precisely correct.

            "The difference from corporate social media comes down to incentive structures. Platforms designed around narcissism & parasocial relationships produce content optimized for engagement. A federated network w/ no central owner produces something closer to actual knowledge-sharing, because nobody profits from making it addictive."

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            Why Mastodon matters now more than its creators imagined

            Mat Duggan expected Mastodon to be Twitter without ads. Instead, it became his only reliable source of information.

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            alterelefant@mastodontech.deA This user is from outside of this forum
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            @tchambers

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            • tchambers@indieweb.socialT tchambers@indieweb.social

              This is precisely correct.

              "The difference from corporate social media comes down to incentive structures. Platforms designed around narcissism & parasocial relationships produce content optimized for engagement. A federated network w/ no central owner produces something closer to actual knowledge-sharing, because nobody profits from making it addictive."

              Link Preview Image
              Why Mastodon matters now more than its creators imagined

              Mat Duggan expected Mastodon to be Twitter without ads. Instead, it became his only reliable source of information.

              favicon

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              paelnever@masto.esP This user is from outside of this forum
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              @tchambers

              It's a different scale but indeed there are people making profit selling things in mastodon. Also there are "influencers" that everybody retoot everyday saying noting while many people fighting against those corps gets ignored. It's not all content you see on mastodon (yet) but it happens and will happen more the bigger the network grows.

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                @tchambers

                It's a different scale but indeed there are people making profit selling things in mastodon. Also there are "influencers" that everybody retoot everyday saying noting while many people fighting against those corps gets ignored. It's not all content you see on mastodon (yet) but it happens and will happen more the bigger the network grows.

                gdupont@framapiaf.orgG This user is from outside of this forum
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                @paelnever
                @tchambers
                Not perfect, but the decentralisation removes incentives to scale these too much. It's not economically profittable for platform owners and thuq not for tje perpetrators.

                They become low background noise and not the central feed.

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                • tchambers@indieweb.socialT tchambers@indieweb.social

                  This is precisely correct.

                  "The difference from corporate social media comes down to incentive structures. Platforms designed around narcissism & parasocial relationships produce content optimized for engagement. A federated network w/ no central owner produces something closer to actual knowledge-sharing, because nobody profits from making it addictive."

                  Link Preview Image
                  Why Mastodon matters now more than its creators imagined

                  Mat Duggan expected Mastodon to be Twitter without ads. Instead, it became his only reliable source of information.

                  favicon

                  Boing Boing (boingboing.net)

                  bms48@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @tchambers The difference in the signal to noise ratio between Fediverse and legacy corporate social media is PALPABLE. There are humans on LinkedIn and Facebook, but reaching them means getting past the keyword-driven algorithm, which often informs you of relevant thread activity very late, and reliance on pre-existing networks (virtually no dynamic growth now) on Facebook also in my experience. This is not to say that I have not had useful information, data or interactions outside Fedi.

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                  • tchambers@indieweb.socialT tchambers@indieweb.social

                    This is precisely correct.

                    "The difference from corporate social media comes down to incentive structures. Platforms designed around narcissism & parasocial relationships produce content optimized for engagement. A federated network w/ no central owner produces something closer to actual knowledge-sharing, because nobody profits from making it addictive."

                    Link Preview Image
                    Why Mastodon matters now more than its creators imagined

                    Mat Duggan expected Mastodon to be Twitter without ads. Instead, it became his only reliable source of information.

                    favicon

                    Boing Boing (boingboing.net)

                    bebef@kowelenz.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @tchambers Can't stress enough how much I've actually learned here on #Mastodon over the past few days!

                    Mastodon is friggin' awesome! 🎉
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                    • gdupont@framapiaf.orgG gdupont@framapiaf.org

                      @paelnever
                      @tchambers
                      Not perfect, but the decentralisation removes incentives to scale these too much. It's not economically profittable for platform owners and thuq not for tje perpetrators.

                      They become low background noise and not the central feed.

                      paelnever@masto.esP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @gdupont @tchambers

                      The only reason is not "economically profitable" (yet) is the small scale of the network. Have you ever asked yourself why corporate media became so successful in the fist place? People are lazy, selfish, easy to manipulate and usually bad educated by default. Social media (at large scale) will never be healthy while people still being like it is now, but corporate social media is making the problem worst. It's a vicious circle and sadly i don't see an exit.

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