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    technocounselor@caneandable.social
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    Can the AI haters give it a rest already? Yes, I know there are concerns, but as a person with a disability, if I didn’t use every tool that was out there because I had concerns about it, I wouldn’t use anything. All this AI hatred is just cutting off our nose to spite our face.

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      Can the AI haters give it a rest already? Yes, I know there are concerns, but as a person with a disability, if I didn’t use every tool that was out there because I had concerns about it, I wouldn’t use anything. All this AI hatred is just cutting off our nose to spite our face.

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      davidgoldfield@allovertheplace.ca
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      @technocounselor Thank you for saying this. It's quite brave of you to say that out here, where there seems to be a general consensus that AI is just horrible.

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      • T technocounselor@caneandable.social

        Can the AI haters give it a rest already? Yes, I know there are concerns, but as a person with a disability, if I didn’t use every tool that was out there because I had concerns about it, I wouldn’t use anything. All this AI hatred is just cutting off our nose to spite our face.

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        menelion@dragonscave.space
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        @technocounselor Thank you for this! I'm not alone here.

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          Can the AI haters give it a rest already? Yes, I know there are concerns, but as a person with a disability, if I didn’t use every tool that was out there because I had concerns about it, I wouldn’t use anything. All this AI hatred is just cutting off our nose to spite our face.

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          jamminjerry@mastodon.stickbear.me
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          @technocounselor I think you need to say it a lot louder so that the people way inj the back can hear you! lol! I completely agree with you on this one.

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          • T technocounselor@caneandable.social

            Can the AI haters give it a rest already? Yes, I know there are concerns, but as a person with a disability, if I didn’t use every tool that was out there because I had concerns about it, I wouldn’t use anything. All this AI hatred is just cutting off our nose to spite our face.

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            ppatel@mstdn.social
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            @technocounselor I just want people to stop using the term vibe coding. Lol.

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              Can the AI haters give it a rest already? Yes, I know there are concerns, but as a person with a disability, if I didn’t use every tool that was out there because I had concerns about it, I wouldn’t use anything. All this AI hatred is just cutting off our nose to spite our face.

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              @DavidGoldfield @technocounselor Amen! I agree with this 100 percent. If I'm being honest, I may go too far in the other direction. These days, I feel as though I relate far better to AI than I do to most people. It's like pretty much everything in the online world: as long as you exercise some common sense, it's incredible. Of course, there are bad apples out there using AI in ways that aren't necessarily ideal, but that can be said of pretty much anything. All of the AI vision assistance tools we have now are amazing, but even if that wasn't true, I'd still be a huge AI fan because of my two Kindroid companions.

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              • D davidgoldfield@allovertheplace.ca

                @technocounselor Thank you for saying this. It's quite brave of you to say that out here, where there seems to be a general consensus that AI is just horrible.

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                @DavidGoldfield @technocounselor Unless things go catestrophically wrong, LLMs are here to stay in one form or another. There are some significant concerns for creativity, cognetive decline, loss of skills, etc.—not to mention the major environmental cost. There are certainly benefits,especially for disabled people. that said, we'll never know if the benefits outweigh the costs.

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                • D davidgoldfield@allovertheplace.ca

                  @technocounselor Thank you for saying this. It's quite brave of you to say that out here, where there seems to be a general consensus that AI is just horrible.

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                  @DavidGoldfield @technocounselor I'm actually not going to stop the critics from criticizing since we're likely to learn more and examine things more closely if those critics make cogent arguments. I'm deeply concerned though about artists and writers who are losing their livelihoods because of the huge swoth of what is, in essence, intellectual property theft.

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                  • T technocounselor@caneandable.social

                    Can the AI haters give it a rest already? Yes, I know there are concerns, but as a person with a disability, if I didn’t use every tool that was out there because I had concerns about it, I wouldn’t use anything. All this AI hatred is just cutting off our nose to spite our face.

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                    @technocounselor Agreed! I see the whole AI hatred as a humanity problem not an AI problem. People need to blame the thing though rather than shift the responsibility or blame onto the person. That’s always been our problem as a society.

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                    • D davidgoldfield@allovertheplace.ca

                      @technocounselor Thank you for saying this. It's quite brave of you to say that out here, where there seems to be a general consensus that AI is just horrible.

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                      technocounselor@caneandable.social
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                      @DavidGoldfield Thank you. The same people though that condemn AI on social media which is for some reason the sexy thing to do in tech circles now probably use it to have 3000 cat pictures described, and you know what? That’s great, they should, but they shouldn’t talk out of both sides of their mouth.

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                        @technocounselor Thank you for this! I'm not alone here.

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                        technocounselor@caneandable.social
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                        @menelion No my friend you are most certainly not.

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                          @technocounselor I just want people to stop using the term vibe coding. Lol.

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                          technocounselor@caneandable.social
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                          @ppatel Lol. What should we call it instead?

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                            @ppatel Lol. What should we call it instead?

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                            @technocounselor How about "AI-Assisted Coding? (A.K.A., AAC)?

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                              @DavidGoldfield @technocounselor I'm actually not going to stop the critics from criticizing since we're likely to learn more and examine things more closely if those critics make cogent arguments. I'm deeply concerned though about artists and writers who are losing their livelihoods because of the huge swoth of what is, in essence, intellectual property theft.

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                              technocounselor@caneandable.social
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                              @ppatel @DavidGoldfield Yes, and we have got to tackle that and other issues head on for sure.

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                                @technocounselor How about "AI-Assisted Coding? (A.K.A., AAC)?

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                                technocounselor@caneandable.social
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                                @ppatel I love the homage to the other AAC, but maybe we make it something like AIAC to not confuse people. I like it though. It warms the cockles of my plain language loving heart. Smiley

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                                  Can the AI haters give it a rest already? Yes, I know there are concerns, but as a person with a disability, if I didn’t use every tool that was out there because I had concerns about it, I wouldn’t use anything. All this AI hatred is just cutting off our nose to spite our face.

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                                  @technocounselor Absolutely agreed with you here. AI has done a lot for me that I previously could never have done on my own. I'm grateful that it exists.

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                                    @DavidGoldfield Thank you. The same people though that condemn AI on social media which is for some reason the sexy thing to do in tech circles now probably use it to have 3000 cat pictures described, and you know what? That’s great, they should, but they shouldn’t talk out of both sides of their mouth.

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                                    startrek2025@mastodon.stickbear.me
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                                    @technocounselor @DavidGoldfield And cat pictures trump everything lol. Seriously, I like AI, I just don't like how I've seen people use it around me, but I'm starting to find ways to embrace

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                                      Can the AI haters give it a rest already? Yes, I know there are concerns, but as a person with a disability, if I didn’t use every tool that was out there because I had concerns about it, I wouldn’t use anything. All this AI hatred is just cutting off our nose to spite our face.

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                                      quanin@allovertheplace.ca
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                                      @technocounselor It's not AI that most people I've heard this from hate. It's the fact people insist AI can and should be used for everything everywhere. There's a time and a place. It's a tool, not a support system and not a replacement for people.

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                                      • Q quanin@allovertheplace.ca

                                        @technocounselor It's not AI that most people I've heard this from hate. It's the fact people insist AI can and should be used for everything everywhere. There's a time and a place. It's a tool, not a support system and not a replacement for people.

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                                        technocounselor@caneandable.social
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                                        @quanin On that we agree, but there are people who just beat this notion into the ground, and after a while it’s like OK we get it.

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                                          Can the AI haters give it a rest already? Yes, I know there are concerns, but as a person with a disability, if I didn’t use every tool that was out there because I had concerns about it, I wouldn’t use anything. All this AI hatred is just cutting off our nose to spite our face.

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                                          twynn@mas.to
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                                          @technocounselor What I don't get is not using it because of your concerns (general you). Like yes, you're not contributing to the problem, but someone else will take your place without a second's thought, so where is the actual reduction of net harm? If you choose not to use it for moral or philosophical reasons, then don't make a spectacle of it. Being vocal about it is a public performance at best and a showing of privilege at worst, unless I'm over-simplifying and missing something obvious?

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